I ran both but now just running #start9 and it’s been great. Uptime is 100% the documentation and tech support is really top notch. It is extremely limited on apps unlike umbrel and running CLN was a pain but other than those two things it has been a pleasant experience

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are you able to get https login working properly?

I keep getting "insecure site" beside the address url even when i follow the download trusted certificate process.

Yeah I did. Was a real pain but I got it going if you need help dive into the telegram

I got it working but only with local ip, not with local machine name.