yeah
they see their own details.
just to say its incorrect to say that no data leaks to anyone when a LN tx is made
Discussion
I think they're both imperfect, key difference being it's way too hard to get to a good privacy level with lightning, so almost nobody bothers. the DNM people are fine staying where they are for now.
the main difference afaict
with LN
you cant actually quantify your privacy
and like you say, high barrier to entry.
with Monero
you have quantifiable privacy
with a low barrier to entry.
STN constantly fudding as if this was NOT the case
and people like nostr:nprofile1qqsr9cvzwc652r4m83d86ykplrnm9dg5gwdvzzn8ameanlvut35wy3gpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejszxrhwvaz7tmddahxzepwdf3r2dfwvdhk6w3cxqurqqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkc0v9nh0 making stupid blanket statments,
are harmful to real world user privacy.
a normal person who just wants to buy a bag of MDMA is not going to attempt self-custody lightning. you would have to be stupid to think a normal person would go through that much trouble. they could either use a custodial lightning wallet or monero. now why doesn't anyone head on over to the DNM forum known as Dread and try to convince everyone to either learn 80 bajillion new steps or give up self-custody? they're not going to do either.
except that no dnms even accept LN
exactly because privacy is hard to quantify.
This one does: http://ikduzlpwcc4khvj27rlywgic6eaxj5w3brj4uo54z2sfyj7b2hfrepyd.onion
LN is also an accepted payment method on robosats and bisq, and p2p exchanges are treated identically to DNMs by governments
Thanks for responding... and I think I want to get out of this can of worms. I just didn't understand how escrow would work with lightning. Don't want to create any hate among people 🩹 Y'all simmer down now.