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I like nostr:npub1494rtg3ygq4cqawymgs0q3mcj6hucvu4kmadv03s5ey2sg32df5shtzmp0 because he disagrees with me on politics, but is a gentleman, and he's good at statistics.

nostr:npub1356t6fpjysx9vdchfg7mryv83w4pcye6a3eeke9zvsje7s2tuv4s4k805u is a "half-retired" techy gal, like me, and I often disagree with her on theological stuff, but she's a lady and I always walk away from our convos feeling wisdomous.

Thank you for the great summaries.

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I like debating. So hard to find people who debate civilly, but rigorously, and still want to be frens, afterward.

I told a demoncrat their policy was a slippery slope, and she said that was the slippery slope fallacy. Basically, "Just because you say it's a slippery slope doesn't mean it is."

It should instead be called the "nuh-uhh" fallacy, or the "let me slide down this slope, damnit" fallacy. This is what they're teaching kids in debate class now-days.

To be fair, it's bad form to name fallacies in arguments. Unless they're funny ones like argumentum ad Hitlerum.

"Judge, and be prepared to be judged."

- Ayn Rand

nostr:npub1hyqrsvl6hle8r5rc9cpshesm0mpcee75tgde4p5lhke5h83dyqqqdwk7cp often likes participating in good debates and I like reading 'em =)

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You should read On Doing the Right Thing, a collection of essays by Albert Jay Nock. In one essay he talks about this sort of thing. He opines that a soceity is immature if it can't have conversations.

Archive: https://archive.org/details/OnDoingTheRightThing

Mises: https://mises.org/library/book/doing-right-thing

https://mises.org/mises-daily/decline-conversation

Communication is breaking down.

Personally I think this is because of too much individualism. However, I'm no expert on such things. I just feel this intuitively. I also have no perscriptions on how to change it. It's just the way things are now.

What you call individualism is the result of collectivism. Collectivist-altruist philosophy and tribalism is what leads to people who can't think or properly defend their positions. A lack of individualism is the problem.

An individual necessarily must think and use reason in this world. A collectivist follows a tribe and uses violence or fallacies because he has nothing else to offer.