Leaking metadata has virtually zero real-world consequences and it's really no big deal tbh. It's not a kind of privacy that actually matters it's just something nerds like to virtue signal about.

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Are you joking?

The only way it would ever matter is if you're in China and you're messaging the Prime Minister of Taiwan, or some absurd niche scenario like that.

In the United States, it wouldn't be probable cause for anything unless you're dealing with a restraining order or there's already other evidence, and even then, making a new keypair is so easy that you can just subvert the issue altogether by making a throwaway profile.

So no, I'm not joking.

bro stop๐Ÿ˜ญ

Tell me why I'm wrong.

leaking meta data for all private communications online is the equivalent of having a camera recording all your irl conversations but with no audio. sure they don't know what you're saying but they see who you're talking to and when. that's private information which 1) you shouldn't want people to have in general and 2) people can use this data in various malicious ways. I can think of a few now and that's just off the top of my head lol

you MUST make sure you care about your privacy, it's a slippery slope otherwise

You don't have anything specific, just vague analogies. Do you even know what metadata Nostr relays collect?

you can quite literally see when each message was sent and to who, you just can't see the contents. you can see this yourself by logging in using anyone's npub and going to the DMS tab.

I was explaining to you why it would be bad, not coming up with "vague" analogies lol

So when you talk to someone at a grocery store or something, do you have a portable confessional booth you set up so no one can see who you're talking to?

That's essentially the type of security you people suggest is necessary.

Does it ever occur to you that anyone can just screenshot their phone and leak your shit, by the way? If you REALLY want security, write notes on paper to yourself, then burn it before anyone can see ๐Ÿคฃ

that's not even what we are talking about, it's clear to me you don't understand and it's ok so this will be my last message. you just said the person on the other side of the conversation can leak it but that's not the issue, the issue is if both people want to have a private conversation but they can't because everyone knows they're talking๐Ÿ˜‚.

2 different arguments here. have a good day

No, I understand the issue. I just don't take it seriously because it's not an issue.

By the way, yes, your conversations at a grocery store are recorded, or at least the metadata is. You're on a security camera.

yeh mate I forgot everyone has all their conversations under CCTV in a grocery store๐Ÿ˜ญ, talk about bad analogies lol.

people have private conversations all the time, it's likely you currently think "if I'm not doing anything wrong I have nothing to hide" but that's how it starts, next thing you know you're in 1984 IRL

Explain to me specifically what metadata on Nostr relays is harmful and in what common scenario it would matter.