Replying to cheesypleb

So rather than fix the problem we just give in to spammers? There is no reason to believe that out of band transactions will ever cost the same as legitimate transactions.

Meanwhile we need to work aggressively to fix the miner centralisation problem. Making bitcoin a spam friendly space in the meantime will do enormous harm, not just in reducing decentralisation but in the public perception of bitcoin. You want institutional and nation state adoption and the number go up that goes with it? If bitcoin becomes a cesspool of spam and scams like ethereum or solana the chance of that goes down massively.

If you want non-monetary transactions on bitcoin thats fine but don't also expect bitcoin to become the base layer of money worldwide.
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Deleted Account 7mo ago đź’¬ 2

Are you listening to anything I’m saying?

You are WORSENING miner centralization.

Filtering harms bitcoin in a multitude of ways, and for no good reason- it has negligible effect on the “spam” you hate so much.

You’re trying to design bitcoin based on ideology, not logic.

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And you’re not just worsening bitcoin for “spammers” you’re actually harming its use as money, which heavily depends upon a public mempool that we can use to accurately estimate transaction fees.

Everything you’re doing is based on emotion, not reason; you’re so blinded by your hatred of shitcoins, you’re willing to damage bitcoin just act like a tough pure bitcoin maxi.

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cheesypleb 7mo ago

I'm listening but I don't think you are. It's perfectly logical to not make bitcoin a safe space for spammers. Node must have a say in what goes into blocks, giving up and ceeding all control to miners, which is what removing the ability of nodes to filter will do, will be the end of bitcoin in the long run. The ONLY thing that makes bitcoin unique (other than first mover advantage, network effects etc) is that its nodes can be run by ordinary users. The nodes signal to the miners what they want them to do. The fact that miners can currently ignore them is the problem that needs to be fixed (by decentralising mining), the solution is not to just give up all control to the miners. If that happens we are effectively ethereum.