All the talk of ossification seems to be lacking nuance. What exactly are these people referring to? Do they understand software development?
Feels like we could use a Nostr Nest on this. Would love to see nuanced discussions with pros and cons or people for and against talking it out.
What do you think nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424 ?
It hurts my brain. People thinking “changing bitcoin” is a black and white thing. You can ossify the core functionality while still improving everything around it (networking, privacy, performance, usability)
My thoughts exactly. Saylor is correct in some aspects but we need nuance.
Well, touchy subject, but if the statistics are to believed, most of the people talking about it don’t have the requisite IQ to understand what they are saying.
Right. General maintenance, user experience enhancements, and security patches. It's not hard to understand, but they just have zero experience.
Unless updates relate to improving security or efficiency, I don't see constant development as overly desirable.
I’m old enough to remember when shitcoiners were saying bitcoin sucks because nothing new is being done “to” it. And bitcoiners vocally stating that this is by design. And now there seems to be some argument - probably related to funding - but total lack of discussion about what exactly should be ossified and why it’s never a good idea not to maintain software.
One of the upsides to this is that it makes pushing major changes a lot harder, sure, updates can be created but it shouldn't be simple to change things. Human behaviour is obviously a key part of the networks defence mechanism.
I think one thing that'll make the conversation harder is people will hear one or two good arguments then repeat those, without having to consider everything themselves. We see this with people parroting Saylor, for instance. Then sides become entrenched. Good luck to devs who want to push through significant changes over the next few years.
People don't understand software development and are afraid that we'll get another Inscriptions vulnerability exploitation or something along those lines. I'm sure this would be a fun debate and educational discussion.
Guys you dont have to go too deep, no they dont actually understand how software works because they’re retarded in the bad way.
STUDY BITCOIN. IF YOU ARE SCARED OF CHANGE BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERATAND SOFTWARE. BETTER START STUDYING. THE DEVS ARE FIRST CLASS CITIZENS IN BITCOIN. IF YOU CAN'T READ CODE, YOU RISK BEING EXPLOITED. DON'T LET IGNORANCE BE THE REASON YOU FAIL.
GO READ MASTERING BITCOIN. GO LEARN TO READ AND UNDERSTAND CODE AND BOOLEAN LOGIC.
Yes please.
I always thought ossification was at the consensus layer. Sure, still fix bgs and optimize your fee estimation and shit. But no more fucking forks that increase the exploit and attack surface.
Ossification started as a mischaracterization of the position that only relevant maintenance should be done.
Later the term was embraced by plebs even though it was a false caricature - in a similar way that plebs embraced the caricature of some assumed toxicity.
It is impossible that someone could mean literal ossification so I never saw a big issue - the hyperbolic form of the term must be evident to anyone.
