I'm happy you are on nostr because your opinion on the state infringing on gun rights is very different. Glad to see some variety
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It's interesting that you suggest that not thinking that anyone should have easy access to firearms, to shoot whoever they feel like, is an unusual view.
I assume that you think that everyone should also have free access to drugs, birth control, abortion, the right to express themselves politically, and define their own gender and sexuality as well?
It's the same value set, yes? The rights of the individual taking precedence over social considerations?
>I assume that you think that everyone should also have free access to drugs, birth control, abortion, the right to express themselves politically, and define their own gender and sexuality as well?
Yes
.... and you need a strong coherent society for that. To provide the infrastructure and services to allow individuals to flourish. Or you will have to spend all day growing your own turnips and fending off those who would steal, rather than grow.
I think you are conflating a strong coherent society with a strong (arm) government. America existed for over 100 years with virtually no tax. You vote with your money, ie you pay for what you want, need, and value in the world. The individual is the ultimate and most abused minority.
There will always be someone, looking to steal fruits of your labour. That's why having guns is important.
One person with a gun can never hold out against an organised enemy.
That's why it's important to have the most organised, strongest, most coherent society. Working together with tolerance and fairness.
The most organised, strongest, most coherent societ is attacking brown people around the world. Open your eyes.
First, build a society that would work together with tolerance and fairness and then talk about gun control. Impossible to do this the other way round.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
The trouble is it's quite hard to build a safe and fair society, when a section of the potential members of it insist on holding the others at gunpoint, and saying the slaughter of their children in school is the price society should pay for their beliefs.
I mean what is important enough for these idiots to actually have a social dialogue around it? It's totally unreasonable.
You say only the government should have the power to hold people at gunpoint. Use any euphemism you like, but you are taking a pro-totalitarianism stance. Genocide can only happen after people willfully disarm themselves and allow a small group of "protectors" to obtain a monopoly on violence.
No. You're saying, take guns from people and deal with the government later. You won't stand a chance.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/05/podcasts/the-daily/myanmar-military-coup-economy.html
If people won't be able to shoot, they'll use knifes. Look at the UK.
And I agree, if someone want to create a new gender and call themselves a bird, it should be allowed to do so, as long as they are 18/21, not 12.
Criminality, is something that we as a society should police, to enforce the social values that we have democratically mandated. Whether that's with guns, knives, or spreadsheets. That's not in doubt if you believe in law and order.
The question is, what values is it appropriate for society to mandate? Should the preferences of a small minority, take precedence over a wider constituencies right to live in freedom from fear?
The notion that 'what I believe' allows the individual to mandate behavior that threatens a wider society is surely intolerant, and thus dangerous.... on many levels?
The thugs that take your money with the threat of murder - that's your taxes. If you think American state violence is only directed externally, that's not so. They are working to divide the American people just like they do to shithole countries.
Then you are not doing it right. You need to elect governments that work in societies best interests, and hold them democratically accountable.
You can't do that acting as a bunch of individuals, without tolerance and negotiating shared values.
The government forcefully takes away your power (money), and then promises you their little multiple choice questionaires are where your power really is. Do you seriously believe that? They select the candidates. 2016 was botched but that "mistake" has been "fixed"
Hundreds of years of governments, not being bothered about their people says otherwise. I prefer buying #Bitcoin and taking the power slowly from the government instead of your solution that never works.
Governments are the representative of the people, elected by the people, directed by the people, and held account by the people.
If there's a problem with the government, it's because the people aren't doing a good enough job.
Governments cannot represent the people as a whole unless everyone wants exactly the same thing. If the government does what the majority wants, then they would be oppressing minorities.
This is a misunderstanding of socialisation. Nobody gets exactly what they want. But through Democratic discussion a society can set it's values, and with tolerance allow people freedom within that.
The reason that you make that compromise is to be better, stronger, offer more opportunity, and safety, than fighting for that alone. Which you just don't have the power to achieve on your own. Against a legion of other views wanting to take what's yours.
The problem is that we have been persuaded to not value society, and put the levers in the hands of those who serve other interests.
Our bad.
The solution is to gather together, agree shared values, and democratically seize control of our destiny.
No individual, however well armed, can do that. If there are enough of us we just need the pen, and the ballot box.
If nobody gets exactly what they want, then the government does not actually represent the people.
The existence of the government requires there to be taxation which is theft. The existence of government is unnecessary and evil. The free market can provide everything we need.
Politicians only care about gaining power and staying in power. They do not care about the people. Political influence is purchased for, not voted for. The vote of the average person does not matter.
>If nobody gets exactly what they want, then the government does not actually represent the people.
I am very sorry that you have so little understanding about human civilization, and what the success of our species is built on. I don't know who has done it to you, but we as a society need to hunt them down and stop them.
Sometimes there's just not enough sentience to work with. It needs intervention.
And your solution is to take guns of the people BEFORE fixing the government?
Expect things getting much worse:
The Rohingya genocide is an ongoing genocide of the Muslim Rohingya people consisting of arson, rape, ethnic cleansing, and infanticide by the Burmese military.
You seriously think that criminals won't have guns if they won't be allowed? Think again.
this is the falacy of gun control
it will make it harder for decent folk
criminals will still be armed to their teeth and shootings wont stop happening, but anyone with intention of following the law will have a hard time complying...
hard to grap for some people but its quite simple
My cat got eaten by a mountain lion and it completely changed my opinion on guns.
😿sorry to hear that...damn
Damn...sorry to hear that Martell.
Her name was Elfie. She was as magical as they come. RIP.
On the topic though, if you live in a city, it’s easy to think guns should be banned. In rural areas there is more danger in everyday life. Your own life and family’s life can be at risk. Not just pets. 
Sorry for your loss. Never was a cat person until we moved out to our property. We got 2 "barn cats" and I really enjoy them.
I grew up around guns so I am very comfortable with them. Beautiful cat!
That's awful, sorry fren 🫂
Gun control is sold to people as protection from criminals. But like usual, the government lies and it has nothing to do with that. The first amendment is to enable the people to protect themselves from government. Period.