For organizational purposes, hierarchies will be necessary, absolutely.
But the question is: How do they come about? How do they operate? Through fear and violence - should and shouldn't? Or through voluntary cooperation - love?
Do we want to continue to tell ourselves that for the good of everybody, because the others don't understand, we need to come up with a forceful morality?
they come about through the objective structure of reality. as a rational creature, that means that order is intelligible to us.
like your eyes don’t create the light u see, nor do we create the organizing principles of reality
morality comes from the social structure of human existence. the concept of an individual only makes sense within an umbrella of necessary social relations.
i’m just saying the cost of abdicating moral judgment is diving into an incoherent world - it’s not real
Mmh, this doesn't quite match what I got to learn about the gnostics recently. But I think we agree at the junction where consequences for action come from nature itself, a natural law and with it a morality. I'm saying we don't have to make up an artificial morality, no matter how much it grew out of social constructs, because then we have to enforce it on another through violence, reward and punishment, you know the whole business humanity has done for millennia and never got out of. Jiddu Krishnamurti went very deep into that subject, intellectually as well as from the heart ... and coming from my Vipassana experience that resonates with me a lot.
agree “we don’t have to make up an artificial morality”
objective reality, aligning one’s actions with existence is not “force.”
that’s what Gnostics think: reality itself is an imposition, an oppressive structure imprisoning the individual.
it’s speculative theology and absurd.
