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I've had a couple days to reflect on the Putin interview and watch how others have reacted to it.

This post may trigger some, but I have no control over how people choose to interpret what they read.

First, I will say Putin and Russia's military actions are reprehensible. I will never be an advocate for big government, war, or any sort of violence.

That being said I have not found a major point from the conversation that I disagree with. I am not an expert in European history so I can't comment on the accuracy of the first thirty minutes, but regarding the current global state of affairs, it seems Putin has a grasp on the reality of the situation. He seems to be exclusively focused on Russia's best interest and he resisted several opportunities to trash his opponents.

In comparison, the US has been screaming about Russia interfering in elections and blaming them for our inflation. Neither of these claims have been proven and the latter is completely ridiculous from a monetary policy perspective.

The arguments I have heard against Putin's position have largely been character attacks or appeals to emotion. Both are worth considering, but lack logos. So far I have not heard a logical rebuttal of his claims.

I would like to hear rational arguments against his position if anyone has some points to share.

I have no desire to argue Russia's position or any other nation. My primary interest has always been in fostering peace and a greater understanding of the world we live in.

f89ea312... 1y ago

Well, about Ukraine. It should be remembered that the Russians killed and starved out an estimated 10 million Ukrainians (google Holodomor). There is a deep hatred of Russia in many parts of Ukraine, and for good reason. Also, the NAZI's there are not like the German NAZI's whose philosophy led them to kill Jews and attack Poland. There are most likely NAZI only because the NAZI's attacked their blood enemy, the Russians. I don't think it's accurate to come off like they are the equivalent to the Hitler NAZI's. (Poland also has good reason to hate Russia) I agree with Putin that those Russian parts of Ukraine should have never been Ukraine, and even though I don't agree with them becoming part of the Russian empire, they should have at least been allowed to break off and have self determination. It was stupid to try and keep them under Ukrainian control, and begging to create the disaster that has happened.

Also, I don't buy that Putin was doing this for historical purposes, or the Russians. Those are justifications for him to expand his power base, and economic access. The justifications have a lot of legitimate points, but in the end they were still just raw power grabs. Though I agree with Tucker, that the Russian empire would probably be unable to act expansionist, except for Russian cultural areas.

Also, it doesn't matter that the US promised to not let Ukraine join NATO. Are countries not allowed to change their policies, change their mind? However, it was stupid for the USA to even remain in NATO after the fall of the USSR. This was just begging to create the disaster that has happened today. Why the Fuck is the USA still in NATO? I can not comprehend how this will serve our best interests in any way, but can easily comprehend how this could lead to lots of unneeded and unnecessary conflicts and wars.

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Sourcenode 1y ago

Nice! A very nuanced take. I agree that the historical argument is bullshit.

If every country thought that way there would never be peace anywhere.

Also never thought about the US leaving NATO. Sounds like a dream to be honest. If I could change any single moment in history it would be the US entering WW1, but of course that would have been bad for the war business..