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I think most Bitcoiners are right about seed oils / carnivore diet / OMAD / fasting on accident.

Inflammation isn't necessarily the Boogeyman, baring an extreme allergic reaction. There's an overestimation of our sensitivity here..

Eliminating seed oils and/or carbs naturally leads to a caloric deficit. Energy balance is the name of the game. We get it with the money, so why not with food?

If you find what works for you, awesome. Don't push your diet on others.

Sincerely, a bodybuilding omnivore who LOVES oatmeal, rice, potatoes, etc.

TLDR; energy balance in diet (CICO) fixes 80% of related issues for most people, on average.
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nobody 2y ago đź’¬ 1

I have wondered this myself. I tend to do really well with fruit and most vegetables, but I have seen so many people thrive doing Carnivore that I am beginning to think there is something wrong with our food.

Most of us are aware by now that wheat is fucking us up. Atleast the genetically modified stuff, not wheat like Einkorn. Could it be the pesticides that are causing these auto-immune diseases, inflammatory reactions and lethargy?

Mikhaila Peterson, who popularized the “Lion Diet” aka Carnivore, was not overweight when she discovered that most foods were causing depression, minor allergic reactions and severere lethargy. It HAD to have been something else.

On the flip side, she may have been an outlier. Most people are pounding so much Salt, Oil and Sugar that their satiety mechanisms don’t even work properly and they’re all suffering from diseases of excess. Depression, inflammation, lethargy, disease, brain fog, are all side effects of over-consumption, but they’re also being reported by people who aren’t over consuming.

It’s got to be a mix between the horrible quality of our foods and excessive eating. Not just one or the other.

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Scionic 2y ago đź’¬ 1

I take your point that our food systems aren't perfect, the processing you mention likely contributes to those symptoms in some way.

However, I'd posit that a lack of meaningfully challenging physical training is at least as positively impactful to this issue (if not orders of magnitude more impactful)

Trained populations, especially those that resistance train regularly within proximity to technical failure, are metabolically (and hormonally) insulated in ways that are still being discovered.

If someone is having the aforementioned symptoms, moving to unprocessed whole foods and adding meaningful, progressive training methods will, most likely, positively impact their situation.

Health is complex, but we should encourage more connection to physicality. Working in tech, myself I see too many people completely ignoring exercise while being overly myopic on their diet.

Food for thought? Let me know if I sound like a training zealot lol 🙏

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nobody 2y ago

I couldn’t agree with you more. It’s incredibly hard to strength train when you’re fat, sick, lethargic. I am proposing we start at the dietary level instead of trying to overcome mental laziness with willpower alone.

If we aren’t nourishing our bodies properly we probably shouldn’t be strength training. However I’d agree that one might approach it from either angle. Use activity to feel well enough to eat well. Or eat well long enough to become more active. Either way we can both agree that dietary excess AND lack of exercise is the problem.