PSA: both the internet and TOR came from the Department of Defense.

Will you use open source freedom tech by its own merits or will you deprive yourself of it based on some larp moralist purity test about who made what and what do they think about the latest political issue?

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Are people saying tor is bad or compromised?

TOR has always been compromised to some degree, not because of it's origins, but because anyone can run a node, and there are adversarial exit nodes in the network.

Do you still use it? Any good alternatives?

Still use it occasionally. Very cautiously. I2P looks promising as an alternative but I haven't messed with it much yet. Most of the 'dark web' still uses TOR.

You run a node? Just use a vpn?

If I need to do something on TOR, Tails OS and a VPN.

Tor has been compromised on occasion but my OP was not about TOR, it's about the irrelevance of free software provenance.

Lots of technologies have been born from military research in the USA. The frequency hopping technique that military radios use is was made cell phone networks possible. Many advances have been made in trauma medicine. There are many more examples but the point is that the origin of the technology doesn't matter, just how people use it.

War advances most fields as to support troops on the front it takes both infrastructure and resources. As both are crucial, you want the most efficient systems... the aim in warfare is to win at any cost... as History is decided by the winners. Legacy matters.

it's good to stay sharp 🙂

The only thing you need for that is free and open source code, nothing else.

Most free Linux distro?

bc everybody van read code right. /s

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That's not the point of free software.

what's the point

The point is anyone can fork it. If the original creators go rogue and take the project in a bad direction, someone skillful enough will fork it and keep it benign. It doesn't need to be you.

good to know thanks

you also checkout relay operators and their values before you pay if you don't run your own.

it's fine to discuss and highlight it in public.

it's also fine if you want to stay away from it.

whatever

Relay operators provide a censorable service, not free software.

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If we based what tools we used on their creators we would use nothing. Personalities and entities involved are irrelevant if it is open source and verifiable. Good can unintentionally come from evil and vice versa.

Bitcoin would not be so successful had Satoshi not done his disappearing act, leaving it impossible for Bitcoin to become a cult of personality. Same is true of Ricardo Spagni stepping down as lead Monero dev.

True 💯

In addition, Satoshi would be imprisoned for a lifetime if they knew his true identity.

The last one to issue an independent currency was charged with terrorism, among other things, and got over 25 years. Satoshi had been inspired by him, as I noticed.

Liberty Coin or some name like that...

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Yeah that's why he got squirly as soon as Wikileaks started taking Bitcoin donations.

Food for thought 🙂

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Facts matter, not who said them.

Especially if it's Nostr open source code you can be damned sure some very good devs looked at it

Btw, what happened to your LN address ser, is it just me that i can't zap you? 😅

Are you the one trying to zap me 77 sats and failing? If so, I think it's an issue with the LN path between our nodes because I'm receiving other zaps just fine.

Yes, confirmed. It seems my node doesn't get proper route to your node. Using different wallet can works properly 😄

Your post is getting a lot of likes.

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Seems like the illusion of freedom. Regardless to how freedom tech comes about it's still needs to run in enemy territory the net. So new I internet and infrastructure which is decentralized and not leveraging the old doj system in anyway seems great.