Some want to say I’m advocating that all relays should be free. I’m not. Just trying to raise awareness that some users (especially new users) may not understand relays or why they’re getting errors.
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I wonder if/when clients will run a local relay for basic functionality?
Will has talked about using nostrdb that way in Damus. I think some things may already be possible in Damus using that, like for search. The issue of publishing is what’s going on here though. Write access to a relay is limited in some cases by rate limiting, and in some cases by paid access or other white listing. In order to do anything on nostr, from posting to replying to liking a note, you need write access to a relay and your followers need to know to read it from that relay.
I’ve been looking at an idea to allow anyone a subscriber follows to write to my paid relay. Not sure, but it feels like something useful.
same, i have some of this functionality but i would like it to be more automatic, expand it to a wot follows of follows and see if that helps expand the noteflows
Just some thoughts on that 👇
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Interesting idea. It could be gamed though. Imagine if I set up an npub and subscribed to your relay. Then I tell people if they want access to your relay, I’ll just follow them. They can even pay me a lower fee than you charge for me to do this. 😂 I think if there was a way to allow write access for interactions with subscribers, then that would be cool. So again say I’m the subscriber and someone replied to me, then that would be allowed write access. But they wouldn’t be able to post other events without subscribing themselves.
i have these options, it can allow tagged, at the relay op opting into it. id also like it to allow repost of something a member is replying to, but thats a bit harder (but clients do send the event so its 1/2 done maybe) 🐝
these options could get spammed by stalker bots but, mods can delete so i think its good options to have.
I love the ideas. Try it and iterate 💜🔥
paid relays are having a hard time because they stay small.. i would personally be fine with you 'reselling' your memberships, theyre only really there for spam control..
I think it would make them more useful for creators if they knew it would reduce spam AND allow their audience to interact with them. That’s been one of my concerns with paid-only relays. If I’m someone creating content to monetize it, then it actually hurts my reach if I have to require people to pay to engage with it by joining the same relay.
Yep, the 'allow tagged' is perfect for that.. and also for DMs, groups and nip17. I just turned that on for nostr21.com ... When I turned it into a paid relay, I bootstrapped it w my follows, since then maybe about 40 people paid 21 sats to join (in the last ~8 mo).. total 1091 members.
