My experience has been that SimpleX seems very secure but it utterly unreliable. Notifications work one time, and don’t four more.

You are limited to one device (crap) messages sometimes take forever to send (crap) and I don’t know if I got a message (crap).

I moved to Telegram. I’m not guarding state secrets.

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Yep but it's a matter of principles...

You don't keep states secret in your house and yet you have curtains and maybe a garden hedge. Furthermore you are not keeping state secrets until you are, cause the law changed.

Privacy and encryption should be by default but the tradeoffs (simplicity, fluidity etc ..) are complicated (even if not a really big deal) to be honest, for now

Telegram and several others are e2e encrypted. Metadata is the only advantage of SimpleX. It has to work.

A safe tool that doesn’t work is still broken.

To each their own. Just sharing my experience. IMO the purpose of a messenger is to message. I was not consistently successful using SimpleX. Snail mail would’ve been more reliable.

Adoption is also a key factor. I was successful in getting my entire family and most of my friends on Telegram. That means 95% of my conversations are now e2e vs before when I had to SMS those same people.

Signal was the goto for a while, but it simply does not support the feature set. Telegram literally powers our video game chats, family coordination of events, etc. It’s been a flawless and painless experience - while maintaining a *reasonable* level of privacy.

In your analogy, SimpleX is like Fort Knox and Signal, Telegram, et al. are curtains and a hedge. 😛

But that’s why we’re free and have choice. TL;DR be prepared to have spotty notifications and only use your phone to message. If those are acceptable to you, then I would say SimpleX in every other way is pretty good.

Check:

www.securemessagingapps.com

Rate the security: 🟩 = 3 🟨 = 1 🟥 = 0

Results:

1. Threema = 85 = the most secure messenger

2. Session = 79

3. Signal = 77

4. Element / Matrix = 59

5. WhatsApp = 34

6. Telegram = 29

7. Apple iMessage = 25

8. Facebook Messenger =25