Thank you for replying.

You stated that one doesn't just become a billionaire by "earning" 1 billion dollars, hence it would be rightful to remove part of such wealth to give to the rest of the people.

That is socialist by definition, is it not?

While I agree that what many people call "capitalism" today, is mostly nothing like real capitalism, but in actuality it's "crony capitalism", which uses the monopolistic power and violence of the state to force taxation money into its own pockets, either directly or by sponsoring laws that grant unearned monopoly power to itself in the market, hence several large extremely rich companies are in fact just stealing money... one can very well legitimately earn to become a billionaire by being extremely successful at providing goods and services that people want, at a good quality and price. That is the wonder of truly free market.

This would happen at great benefit also of everyone else, as they will gladly spend their money to buy products and services that fully satisfy their needs.

This would also in turn benefit workers, who would be free to sell their time and work to the best buyer.

As it is now, each and every critique of "capitalism" that is going mainstream, is actually a critique of something that, without the state, simply would not exist.

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I do like your reply.

And I like the fact that you took the time to explain in simple words, how you feel and what you think.

It’s refreshing. I agree with a lot of what you said.

My one issue is, I didn’t suggest we take money from legitimate billionaires and give it away, my problem is the billionaires that did not provide actual goods and services and aquired the wealth through conspicuous means, loopholes and underhanded mechanisms that seem self indulgent and go against the simplest logic and moral constructs.

Oh, I see, those would be called cantillionaires.

While they are actively violating personal liberties by abusing state power for their own benefit, they are are an emanation of the state.

As long as enough people will keep believing the superstition that what is illegitimate for an individual to do (expropriation, murder, compulsion) becomes legitimate and just if you are a politician, a soldier, or a judge, the state will maintain its status of religion and all of us will have to bear the consequences.

So I guess the meeting point is that, if your OP was actually referring to cantillionaires, then yes, they do violently extract wealth and we fully agree on the topic.

In this case I was wrong, and you are not, in fact, a socialist :-)

I mean, I don’t know what I am, or what am not. I don’t like labels, I don’t like a dual party system… I’m just a “Sai”.

I love things like, consensus.

Trustless systems. Immutable ledgers.

I love honesty. I like to see teamwork, I like to see when a person puts a degree of extra effort, sometimes for their selves, sometimes for others. Acts of selflessness, and kindness.

It seems pretty obvious to me that if we as the human race can stop bickering, and start having compassion for eachother, especially our young people, that we can achieve great things.

I believe that value FOR value is crucial, and we should be rewarded for virtuous acts. We should make art, make music, make love, and try to leave the world a little better than when came into it.

I know there’s evils in the world.

There are evil people, there are people with diminished capacities, both self inflicted and inherited, and our species could never be PERFECT on an Individual basis, but we can and should strive to do better as a species.

It’s funny to see people label you as a socialist for saying this while they’re rushing to the defense of billionaires who couldn’t have made their fortunes without exploiting every possible government loophole.

God forbid a bitcoiner criticize capitalism! 🤣 Funny indeed

Fuckin’ sycophants! You’re supposed to be free-thinkers… 😆