Nostr Web Client

i didn't even know about nostr until i rediscovered you through x, but i knew about ipfs. Is it that people aren't interested in these technologies or are devs being targeted ?

weev 1mo ago

All of this suffers from the tragedy of open source commons. Public messages (notes) on Nostr are okay at this point, but there are several different protocols for DMs. Imagine being told you aren’t getting your friend’s DMs because their client only supports NIP-04 direct messages, and yours uses NIP-17. Also if you google “Nostr client” the first links will suggest to you as a Mac desktop user a client that crashes with a strange error with no clear guidance how to fix it. Only by reading the Mac specific readme on Github will you be able to open a terminal and paste the correct command that will allow the program to run.

There’s tons of things like this. And Nostr is the best option there is so far. And it’s still this bad.

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weev 1mo ago

anyways I’m not trying to be negative here, I’m just saying that the onboarding experience for normies can be extremely frustrating. It’s already way better than it was a year ago.

Bloody Fissures 1mo ago

Can confirm. I'm said normie and there's definitely a learning curve. I learn best by reading on my own and trying different clients. What I like about this is I only get info from people I follow, not people some dumbass algo says I need to see. It's kind of like back in the olden days where you have to do the work to find stuff you like instead of having it force fed. Much better vibe on Nostr. More people will come once somebody dumbs everything down to make it not such a struggle for normies to get involved.

But, then you'll have soccer moms and "influencers", total dipshits, Karen's, and a various collection of dumb asses coming over. Not looking forward to that but I won't have them shoved in my face unless they seek me out.

weev 1mo ago

having normies on sounds good to me. The best internet was early Twitter era when all the old Internet personalities weren’t banned in the same places normies posted, and they were all shocked and appalled at being exposed to internet culture

cryptopsy 1mo ago

plus who are we going to troll without normies and which groups are we going to raid if there are no lowcow farms?

Bloody Fissures 1mo ago

Very good point.

Bloody Fissures 1mo ago

I remember a time when you'd have to turn your head sideways to view an emoticon. ;-)

cryptopsy 1mo ago

can nostr be used for filesharing like how people are using discord?

weev 1mo ago

On the relays themselves it isn’t optimal. You’d have to come up with some hybrid system with IPFS where you’re serving the files off of your own computer or something, and even then that probably isn’t what you want. Relays are going to reject large files most likely. Nothing much bigger than the tiny 7 second videos that are on diVine, at least for the time being. Definitely not generalized filesharing.

cryptopsy 1mo ago

indexing magnet links or ipfs addresses to files is surely to blow up the population around here

weev 1mo ago

I don't think that’s particularly useful, no, because people aren’t generally socializing at the same place they find torrents or whatever. Or maybe I am wrong.

cryptopsy 1mo ago

that's how 4chan did it, people would hang out on /v/ all day and then go to torrent stuff on the secret torrent board. I see it on fitgirl-repacks as well, people asking for help installing games. Or on 1337 when you have some software repackaged by a jeet and no one understands how to bypass the liscence. On steam don't people discuss games before buying?

weev 1mo ago

Okay well I don’t know, I’ve never posted on 1337x or fit girl-repacks and steam is a different thing altogether, but the point is that these are filesharing sites with comments sections. I’m not going to a filesharing site to find personalities to subscribe to. I don’t see how it is related. But Nostr is an open protocol and you can build anything on it