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in this way can we see science's relation to their sibling, art

and to their parentage, alchemy

traces are there

common ground like determination, ingenuity, to bring work forth

nobody 3mo ago

why did alchemy have children, science and art

for the most part i do think that is a riddle for the ages

but really, as things tumble forward thru time, as complexity arises

there are simply different needs when it comes to verification

reproducibility was a desire

to make a common ground way in consensus

science said oh! that's me for life

art said im not so sure that's me ultimately

lets roll back back back

to the renaissance to the great painting workshops

a lot of those painters were training under reproducibility. it was a technical craft. the skill of painting, the skill of making pigments, the math of specific proportions for specific reasons under specific schools of thought. to apprentice for a long time under a master.

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nobody 3mo ago

to find a patron, to be able to start your own workshop, to have your own apprentices to make something distinct

to make something that cannot be reproduced to make something singular entirely, something arresting, captivating, maddening, soothing

the type of verification that lands all at once

like: im sure as shit that's you

nobody 3mo ago

i dont need method for this

i dont need to reproduce it

i dont need to do that myself

to know you when i find you

i know you made that painting

not this painting, not this painting, not this painting

That One

nobody 3mo ago

we can see how art tumbled into curation

what it is to be a curator

what it is to go into art history as an academic field

what it is to work in museum collections and preservation and conservation

what it is to have the expertise to say:

i have determined this is a lost painting by this artist and i can make that case and tell you why in these ways

nobody 3mo ago

to say: ive studied one artist i know their work

i know the pigments available at that time

i know the brushes they preferred

i know the weight of their hand during those harder years for them

i know in what order they paint in what shadow

i know their preferred varnish

nobody 3mo ago

like yea i can tell you to me? i would buy that painting because the claim that it is genuine is true as far as i can see

or dude not a chance not even close that is hoax on hoax forgery

or what a smile, this forgery has so much artistry all its own i love it who even needs the og artist when this is better hell yea for the anon painting

nobody 3mo ago

science does not stand for that like a curator does

so we can see a much wider divergence here downstream

science is like: this painting is going under an electron microscope. if we do not have methods yet we will make them. if we do not have tools yet we will make them.

nobody 3mo ago

curator like: you are missing the point

imagine misusing a painting

a painting is for enjoyment

for display

for people to experience it

science: sorry im not a trophy hunter i care about truth not acquisition

nobody 3mo ago

sometimes siblings disagree

that fight is on worthy grounds

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