The 'average' person isn't on Nostr right now. This is a collection almost exclusively made up on hobbyists.

But for those that don't want to run a node (I get it), something like Phoniex makes some acceptable tradeoffs.

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There are tons of average people on nostr. All kinds of non technical and lightly technical are using it every day.

Also AFAIK I can't receive zaps on Phoenix, as it doesn't provide an LN address.

Correct, that's a limitation of LNURL needing a web server is not conducive to 'normies', which of course pushes people to use custodial stuff.

I get the 'why', but that doesn't mean I won't stop pushing people to look for more sovereign alternatives.

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Your nsec is the only ☝️ I’m having troubling ⚡️ too 😂🤔🫠🤙💜🫂

Pushing people to look for more soverign alternatives is not helpful without guidance. You really do make less technical users feel stupid and inadequate. It's doing more harm than good.

How do you receive zaps directly to Phoenix?

You can't AFAIK

Then why did you bring it up?

None of these negative comments and posts about custodial lightning include anything about what new less-technical users should actually do.

If you put together a guide on how newbs should onboard to lightning and include it in all these comments you make, I would shout that guide from the rooftops.

Or you guys can keep bitching and making users feel stupid.

It could do with an update, but how's this for starters?

https://bitcoiner.guide/lightning/

First time I've seen this or anything like it attached to one of these custodial bitching posts. How deep will people have to dig in the replies to see this?

They can just follow the link in my bio.

No need to get so triggered dude, appreciate the pushback. Maybe I'll start reposting my old guides here.

Subbed to your pod too.

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Sorry of I seem triggered. I do genuinely believe this type of thing makes people feel stupid and inadequate. For most people, non-custodial lightning is not just inconvenient but not achievable at all.

I look forward to the day that changes. Lots of great stuff is under construction in the lightning world. Bolt 12, privacy features, mobile node improvements, etc. Then I will be telling people to use that stuff. Until then, custodial is best for a lot of people.

I’m not average but I’m a noob.

Don’t think it’s as simple as that but appreciate the push to keep thinking about how I can have a better setup and be more sovereign.

This 🟣 helps those conversations so much and why I’m so thankful for this 🟣 to help me with this 🟠.