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we say "Monero is what noobs think they bought"

but it's also what bitcoiners think they bought

> small, 300kb blocks (dynamic to increase but with a miner reward punishment)

> resistant to spam (spam exists: https://github.com/mooonero/mordinals but we use and enforce filters)

> only monetary transactions

> cost effective to be fungible and anonymous money (that means txs are slightly bigger with added privacy, but not as expensive as bitcoin's coinjoins source: https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/comparing-private-spends/)

> it may get LN-like payment channels in the next network upgrade

> no mining centralization

nostr:npub1yxp7j36cfqws7yj0hkfu2mx25308u4zua6ud22zglxp98ayhh96s8c399s would LOVE monero if it wasn't a separate coin but was made by the hands of Satoshi himself

I'd rather just use a Bitcoin related system for the same privacy benefits. That's just an honest admission of where I am as a Bitcoin user. It just integrates with my life better than Monero did, which is why I stopped using it.

The Lightning-like thing sounds really cool though. In fact, I actually still really like the general philosophy of Monero and it's users. They're the one crowd in this space I can find common ground with.

Maybe I will play around with Monero again, but I think it has lost the narrative at this point. The more likely outcome in my view is better privacy built around the Bitcoin ecosystem. I like having Monero around to compete and push that. After all, it is a free market.

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I think the "I just want to use Bitcoin" makes sense, there's too much "crypto" out there too much stuff to worry about just go for the "safest bet" and largest community where most people are, I wouldn't say to someone "- stop what you are doing and learn about Monero"

But you lost me when you said monero lost the narrative? how did Monero lose any narrative if it keeps growing, not just in price but usage, adoption, every place that accepts monero sees higher XMR volume than BTC, and it's still the king of the dark web?