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Currently looking at a refurbished Thinkpad t490. 16gb of ddr4 and an 8th gen i5. Sounds decent on paper but hesitant to pull the trigger

You can upgrade the ram in those and storage with a M.2 but levono made it unnecessarily difficult to do unlike the older models. Caveat emptor but if you can find a cheap one go for it. Just depends on what you’re going to use it for.

I was trying to grab a W520 for dirt cheap but got sniped. If you are ok with a desktop they sell old business SFF towers for less than $80 all day long and easy to upgrade with used parts off eBay.

Yeah absolutely, the reason ThinkPads are so appealing is the upgradeability. I have a decent desktop already, so I'm probably going to grab a cheap t480 or 90! It's just going to be used for web development and college work so something older should do the job

The old IBMish ones were awesome, levono has slowly killed off everything good about the brand. Maybe look for a different brand and check to make sure they didn’t solder the RAM in so you can’t upgrade.

Examples of towers I was talking about