You seem upset that I'm not going to go and re-read Spooner at your request to then respond to it. But if you have a solid grasp of Spooner's arguments, as you seem to suggest you do, then you might try to advance those arguments directly, rather that throw up your hands and get frustrated. You'll note that every argument I've made in this thread is *my* argument. Every argument you've made is someone else's argument that you want me to respond to.