Freedom isn't free, even on #nostr; it requires being open to encountering dissenting views, even if you can mute them right away.

I talk to people here that I would never encounter offline. Often people who I strongly disagree with on some issues, but learn from on others.

Normies simply don't enjoy this.

"Walled Garden" community-specific relays could fix this, but require critical mass.

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i think you’ll come to find out we have much more in common with the “normies” you speak of .

this popular sentiment amongst nostr users is actually ironically creating a walled garden itself, furthering nostr to become what it originally fought against.

That's not really fair, as you're on theforest and that automatically gets you more high-quality interaction. Most people are just on the big relays and their replies are dead as a doornail.

I love TheForest, and all you crazy cats.

But I also browse on Global, like a whaleshark swimming in cringe instead of seawater. Sometimes I reply or react, and sometimes complete strangers hold conversations.

If I were trying to attract Normies, I'd build custom versions of big apps pre-filled with only community-specific relays (instead of forks), and share those apps with very specific communities.

Making an app community-specific shouldn't require a fork, but devs dream of being autocrats of their own forked kingdoms. Maybe we need a workflow that allows non-devs to easily create walled garden versions of each Nostr app.

Don't invites already do that? You can invite someone to use a Nostr app and have it preload with your preferred relays, or something.

It's just the relay settings (except Primal, with that weird cache server thing). I use only theforest on all apps, and that works fine.

#Alexandria will also let you change the community relay to wss://whateveryouwant.com, but it's not planned to be added to the settings for the MVP. You won't need to fork it, to have a different experience, and you can then invite people to your variant, by sharing your settings. Settings are an event.

And you can already login and change it to use your relay list.

We're also going to allow different stylesheet with masks and stuff, as that's how we're going to build the #biblestr variant. Biblestr is the version planned for after Defoe, and we're going to design the customization we do to be reusable for other customizations.

We're going to give it its own domain, tho, so that it's more attractive off-Nostr because it has a Bible-y name.