I donāt enjoy driving which is why I have a Tesla
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I also donāt like Teslas because I detest Tesla culture. Most of the owners Iāve encountered seem like smug, entitled, jerks.
Recent example: I rented an EV from a different manufacturer on a trip last week, which uses the J1772 plug standard. The hotel where I was staying had three charging stations: two Tesla chargers and one ChargePoint. When I arrived late in the evening, the two Tesla chargers were sitting unused, and there was a Model 3 plugged into the ChargePoint with a little plastic adapter. āØāØI parked right next to it and yanked the cable out (it wasnāt locked because of the adapter), and plugged it into my car, which locked the cable for the night.āØāØI checked in to my room and wrote a friendly note to the Tesla driver to let them know.āØāØSoā¦Ā AITA?
Iām definitely smug and entitled.
Also a narcissist with psychopathic tendencies.
Not sure why some people consider these negative traits?
I enjoy driving which is why I don't own a Tesla
Interesting.
My car drives itself most of the time, but if I were interested in driving I would probably still buy a Tesla. It accelerates faster than any other car, it holds the road due to the low centre of gravity and it handles incredibly well. It will also take over if Iām about to kill myself.
Some things Iāve noticed from people who enjoy driving. The obvious point is it doesnāt make any noise when driving, which for me is a bonus, but if making noise is your thing, then an electric car is going to disappoint. Iāve also heard some people describe the handling of Teslaās as flat.
Can you explain what it is about Teslaās or EVās that you donāt like as a driver?
Cost mostly. But I also read robopocalypse and since then cars that I don't have full control over kinda freak me out š
Me too. I struggle to give it control around town. My wife swears at it constantly cos she thinks itās not driving like she would š¤£š¤£š¤£
Lack of OEM parts. Software is not OS. Uploads driver data to Tesla. Judging from my wife's habits with her phone, she would run the battery dead and lose it in the bottom of a shopping bag.
Iām a gas powered vehicle maxi. No thank you to electric vehicles. Give me a beefy V8 with no fancy electronic bells and whistles. Simple but powerful is my preference
Yes, but why?
Also why do you consider a petrol engine with over 3,000 parts simple?
Why when comparing a Tesla to say a 1990 ford f150 would you say the truck isnāt simple? There are so many things to break on a Tesla, you often times wait a long time to repair because parts are back ordered including having to use an authorized and specialized technician to do the repair. And you donāt own a Tesla in the same way you would own a 1990 f150. You can do the repairs yourself on the truck, and mod it, and pick your parts OEM or aftermarket and find a ton of technicians that can work on it. So like I said. Iāll stick to my v8 gas powered vehicles and stay away from electric ones. Thatās just my preference.
I donāt think the comparison is valid. Electric motors are simple and never go wrong, batteries never go wrong. Their is no servicing required, ever. If you need to get your car repaired it has either been involved in an accident or there was an error made in manufacturing.
Weāve had two minors repairs required (both our fault), the technician came to the car, we let him in remotely, he fixed the problem and left. We were charged for one repair (a broken wing mirror) and the other was complimentary (we hung an umbrella on the charge port release strap meaning it would not rapid charge).
What OEM parts? Iām not sure why you need any?
Software is not OS? What does this mean?
Is your comment about your wife a joke or are you trying to make a serious comment?
No OEM means you cant work on it yourself.
Tesla owns your data and if they want they can shut down your car. OS is open source, meaning we cant know what data is sent to Tesla and no one can work on the software when your model goes out of support
Fair point, but Iām not sure why youād want to work on it yourself.
Electric cars have no parts that go wrong. The motors last for ever, the batteries last longer than the life of the car.
Classic petrol cars will continue for people that actually want to work on engines, but for most the car will become a functional mode of transport that requires nothing to maintain it (except tyres, windscreen wipers and windscreen washer fluid).
Then I hope you never have to work on your car! Dont call me if it does need work. What is the life of the car?
Iāve never worked on any car in my life. Thatās what garages are for.
Iām not sure what you mean by life?
If you mean how old? One is 1 year old, the other two years.
For life expectancy, there are Tesla taxis approaching 500K miles and over 10 years old. I think the things that will āgo wrongā with EVs will be peripheral components rather than the motor or batteries.
As I said EVs are a paradigm shift. If you want to āworkā on cars there will be plenty of classic petrol cars around for years to come. If you donāt want to āworkā on cars, then EVs just work.
I hope your cars never break!
Why?
It doesnāt matter theyāre only cars!
I would like to have a sensible, serious, respectful discussion with a petrol car lover about why they are so negative about EVs.
If you prefer to throw insults or Ill wishes into the discussion instead, I would at least like to understand why?
I have no skin in the game. I donāt care about cars, but I do use them to travel around and to me, an outsider to the cultural side of cars, I am struggling to understand why a big proportion of car lovers are belligerent and make irrational claims to support scenarios that are simply untrue.
EVs are not perfect and they certainly have their disadvantages, but their advantages, from what I can see, outweigh their disadvantages.
Feel free to give some advantages of petrol cars, or make a rational case against EVs, but if you are unable, a polite refusal is far preferable to insults or derision.