Nostr Web Client

The comments on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38718544 are proof that we can't make "just apps" and have people use them without knowing that Nostr is a thing. Users must know.

And in fact I think it is much easier to teach people about Nostr than about why your damn app doesn't have email+password login and where is it storing things and how does moderation work without telling them about Nostr.

And when they finally understand the basics of Nostr they will suddenly understand everything about not only your app, but about all other Nostr clients.

Huw 2y ago

I remember seeing Flare land on HN and seeing the responses.

My general observation of most nostr enabled services is that the UX SUCKS.

“Paste your nsec here or use an extension”, 9/10 that’s all you get. No explanation, sometimes not even a homepage to give context.

Why on earth should you expect a “normie” (hate that term) or even a knowledgeable user to use your service?

The implicit message you’re giving is “admittance by secret handshake only”.

The sheer arrogance of some of the people responding here is making my blood boil.

Nostr is a FREEDOM protocol, Bitcoin is a FREEDOM currency. If you don’t help people get in at the base understanding than how it can it GIVE FREEDOM.

Dunking on “normies” tells me you don’t GET nostr, you don’t GET Bitcoin. You treat like an exclusive club to make yourself feel superior.

Rant over

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fiatjaf 2y ago

I don't get your point. Are you saying normies are dumb and incapable of understanding Nostr?

atyh 2y ago

Are these “normies” in the room with us right now?

Huw 2y ago

Not at all, I ranted too much so the intention was lost.

If you’re going to post a Nostr service somewhere like HN or any other non-Nostr aware place you have to expect that they will criticise. You hit “login” and you’re greeted with a pattern of authentication you’ve never seen before. Yes it can be googled but as a user you would expect some level of signposting to where you can learn more.

Dissident Sound 2y ago

you can't give somebody freedom dumb fuck

freedom must be taken

fiatjaf 2y ago

I agree with that, and I agree that UX specialists here have an enormous contempt for the common man, which is ridiculous and absurd.

The Commoner 2y ago

I feel like I am pretty much a “normie” (not a boomer but close) - anyway I first found Nostr thru Damus and simply didn't “feel” it working well even though I really loved the idea! Now it's been a year or so and it seems to me that all the devs have figured out how to make it more user friendly for “dummies” like me! Zap those Devs!!!