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Disabling likes by default in every client might not be a terrible idea. Potential to reduce dopamine hits, reduce doom scrolling, promote discussion, increase signal with zaps.

Option to turn {on} your drugs.

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

I disagree.

Likes are useful as general nods of agreement that help people connect with others they don't know well and don't see in person. Remove that and you slow down the process of building bridges with new people.

If I were to write small talk everywhere, then my feed would be filled with noise. Not all zaps are visible on notes.

Likes are not dopamine drugs for sovereigns, they are indicators of general, positive non-verbal interactions that informs us about who may hold similar viewpoints.

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HoloKat 2y ago

I’d never follow you for one of your likes. But I’d follow for the comment.

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

Fair enough. However, over time I can see recurring agreements from likes that helps me connect a name with certain positions. There is repetition that helps me making that connection.

I might not see all their comments in my flow and it saves me time to get a general impression in this format.

Many people don't write a lot of small talk and I'm generally in that category as well. If we remove likes then our feeds become full of short responses that have meaning for us but may be noise for others.

HoloKat 2y ago

Good points. Someone abound just experiment with a client so we can see what actually happens.

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

Sure, experiments can be interesting.

But suppose we assume that some people out there are addicted to likes, then short comments of agreememt will just be the new form of likes.

HoloKat 2y ago

That’s a possibility but not a certainty imo

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

But how do you know that people are addicted to likes in the first place? It sounds like a hypthetical from the start.

HoloKat 2y ago

It’s quite real

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

That sounds like the exception though, not the norm.

HoloKat 2y ago

Human need for acceptance is not an exception.

Leo Fernevak 2y ago

Sorry, I'm not with you on your train of thoughts. Addiction is a rare phenomenon.

Ken 🎋 2y ago

Very good points in this thread! Made me realize I was using likes the same way #[4] does.

- giving them, when no need / no time for an articulated message

- seeing them, to identify users who usually share my POV and sometimes discover great follows

Likes keep discussions light and digestible, only people who actually have something to say usually post.

If the only way to weight in is to post a comment or zap, threads will get spammed AF and boring.

Regarding addiction to likes and need for acceptance, I think I'm with #[9] on this one. It's probably present among most humans, albeit at different levels.

IMHO more widespread but less toxic and less dangerous than gambling addiction. And Nostr being a fair playground with no algo manipulation (for now at least 😬), maybe it's not such a big deal.

Let them have 💜, let them give 💜 🤙

jamw 2y ago

Very few shakas in this thread 😂

HoloKat 2y ago

😂