The chain is used now and will be used even more in the future. No one hodls forever. Bitcoin is money. People live and will spend their Bitcoin for their living.
Both users on-chain and on LIghtning Network will increase leading to increase to transaction volumes and fees profitability. The free market is doing its thing at adjusting participants and efficiency.
Then you'll run into #4
Lightning doesn't pay mining fees to secure the chain so it doesnt matter with what we're talking about
Miners are free to run lightning nodes. In addition they have their own on-chain incentives. Also opening and closing LN channels do pay fees on-chain.
Lightning is the opposite of what you would want.
It entirely eliminates transaction fees for miners that go thru it's network. Or it greatly reduces fees if they do decide to run one node.
I don't think many miners are going to go through the trouble for a few cents a month.
LN channels do pay fees on-chain.
Lightning Network is the way to get every human being to use Bitcoin as medium of exchange. Small value transactions.
There will be enough market for on-chain high value transactions. Miners incentives work.
Sorry but what you think is irrelevant. What I think too. What is relevant is the reality.
All my bets are on Bitcoin though. Its the only Hope for Humanity.
No they dont. If I pay you on lightning miners don't get any of those fees.
Lightning doesn't scale to every human non-custodially/permissionlessly.
You're right what we think is irrelevant. What happens will happen.
Opening and closing lightning network channels pay on-chain fees to miners.
Its good we agree on the last point : )
Yes, but the whole point of lightning is to very rarely open/close channels and mostly transact over lightning.
For once we agree on something
Lets call it a day on a good note.
I wish you well. Let us be free, have our choices and what happens will happen.
it doesn't make me as mad listening to the cult of monero but i still pretty much mute them all and usually don't engage with them. you can't bring reason to a person who is a fanatic about something. their brain is full of phobias against the principles that actually are important.
"you can't bring reason to a person who is a fanatic about something"
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