So I am having a surprisingly pleasant conversation with our master of spam and DM killer. No bad intentions as far as I could detect, but Nostr does have a problem that needs fixing. I think we should stop witch-hunting and put our heads together to fix the problem. Limiting your notifications and replies to follows only is not a viable solution, unless you don’t want new users to join. What day you, Nostr? 🐶🐾🤔🫡 nostr:note1paf00emapt6uy9tkekqh249z6a6504djsstga3d27xvt0hd22gqqal0nh2
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No bad intensions sounds nice. I suppose annoying users is for the common good. That's not art, we have a name for it, spam.
It is still spam alright! 🐶🐾🤣
Sorry - I’m not buying it. This isn’t well intentioned nor is it clever or creative. Savvy relay operators can fingerprint this behavior with ease.
I didn’t say it was well intentioned, did I! The problem is still here and we can’t deny that. It took me scrolling through 10 screens to get to you reply. Your relay maybe we suited to protect against this simple spam, but none of the other relays are not out of the box. The problem is still here and users are still annoyed and may decide to leave. 🐶🐾🫡
Just to clarify - filter is actually at massive disadvantage compared to the public relays because we do not see the network fingerprint of the spammer. It should be considerably easier for the relays directly facing the spam.
But I am kinda dumb. I have no clue how to do that with my present relays.
Nonsense! Not intelligence of course, just some networking know how and time spent in the trenches fighting script kiddies in my other projects hahaha.
Do you have a public relay that’s currently being spammed? Perhaps I could look at it.
He’s an extortionist. He’s spamming relays until they implement his idea for reducing spam.
And his idea is a bad one, in my opinion. I guess he agrees, since he’s coercing instead of trying to persuade.
You are allowed to brainstorm your ideas.
But note, Relying on something like verification such as captcha, email verification, or similiar already breaks the nostr goal.
Brainstorming is offering up an idea and listening to the ideas of others. It’s not, “I’m going to annoy you until you implement my idea.”
> “I’m going to annoy you until you implement my idea.”
I did not annoy you to force implementing my ideas,
But to brainstorm while getting noises.
Oh, unlike all the other spam on Nostr, your spam is helping? Can you explain how?
I never said that my spam is helping.
They are rather "pulling up attentions".