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What are the “unfounded maxi cliches” I mentioned?

sommerfeld 2y ago

-No longer eat processed soy laced food and seed oils

-Spend more time in the sun.

-Appreciate my free time

-No longer worried of peoples opinions.

-Made me a better debater and deep thinker

-No longer an atheist, and brought me closer to God

-My dream is now to own large piece of land and have my own cattle and chickens.

These are just health/lifestyle choices that are frequently echoed by maxis and have nothing to do with bitcoin nor libertarianism. They are "unfounded" not because they are wrong but because they are subjective and personal.

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Sovereign Matt 2y ago

Leanring about bitcoin lead to my personal development so it’s not unfounded to me.

sommerfeld 2y ago

My point was that the fact that your personal development aligns with the popular bitcoiner ghospel is a worrying sign of cultism that needs to be re-checked if you really value critical thinking.

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

“Cultism” is a weak argument. Since the dawn of human history humans have been tribal and have a set of shared beliefs (usually based on some universal truths). As I said I am not a maxi but you want to put me in that box to prove your point that I dont critically think for myself. Being a bitcoiner is not a cool thing and it’s mainly social suicide to say in the real world with family and friends. To think for yourself and different from your peers takes critical thought and deep self-reflection. And to challenge the entire financial/political/educational/pharmaceutical establishment status quo also requires someone who has done their homework, who thinks for him/her self and can backup what he/she is saying.

sommerfeld 2y ago

You make it seem like this is a big risky and brave contrarian viewpoint. IRL you would be right, but on nostr is just common circlejerk.

Show me a real non-bitcoin-related opinion of yours that is unpopular amongst bitcoiners and I'll concede you are indeed a free spirit.

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

“Maxis”, “Cultists”, and “Circlejerkers”. Mate you ain’t a contrarian or critical thinker you claim to be. You just get a kick out of calling people on internet names to be cool.

All I will say is God bless you! Please unfollow me.

sommerfeld 2y ago

>-No longer worried of peoples opinions.

>-Made me a better debater and deep thinker

Ironic that you now seem so bothered and fragile when I didn't directly you called you anything.

>Pease unfollow me.

Why? What difference does that make for you?

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

I aint worried.

You havent even got argument other than name calling me. “Maxi”, “Cultists”, “Circle Jerker” and now “Fragile”.

It’s pretty clear you only have ad hominem attacks.

And I am politely asking you stop replying as you wasting my time because this conversation is going nowhere as you fail miserable to articulate any argument.

sommerfeld 2y ago

You failed to point out where I called you names.

If you don't want to keep arguing, this is an open protocol. No need to politely ask me to unfollow you.

You can just stop replying or if you feel particularly offended, mute me forever.

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

You made it very clear.

sommerfeld 2y ago

Glad I could help. I hope you keep an open mind and are willing to be challenged.

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

Here’s tip for you. If you trying to make an argument don’t start ad hominem attacks because it means you already lost. Attack the facts not characteristics no matter how “maxi”, “cult like”, “circle jerkers” or “fragile” they come across.

Again, God bless you! You need it.

sommerfeld 2y ago

There's no ad hominem because I'm not making any logical argument.

I'm making a SUBJECTIVE characterization of piling a much of common bitcoin twitter ghospel together as potentially cultist.

It's a personal opinion, not an argument. I'm sorry if it ofends you. You are obviously entitled to disagree.

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

So with you its your feelings over objective truth.

I dont care how you feel. Your feelings are none of my business.

I deal with the facts of the matter.

sommerfeld 2y ago

If you didn't care about my opinion you could have just ignored me and moved on.

In my original comment I explicitly said I don't disagree with any of your points in particular.

Sovereign Matt 2y ago

Your Logic: Replying to you comment means I care what you have to say.

Incorrect: I get personal satisfaction exposing the contradictions of the arguments you made. Thank you for that.

sommerfeld 2y ago

What contradictions did you expose?