Zaps are cool but have you ever tried sending #ecash tokens directly to someone's nostr pub key?

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No, because I would never know you sent it lol.

That wrapped bitcoin better be easy to unwrap by the way.

Mystery sats lmao

Not mystery sats, but actual sats. You can pull them directly into your Lightning wallet.

The mystery is whether or not the mint still has the sats.

You can run your own mint. You can also withdraw on receipt.

Hence when I said "those wrapped bitcoin better be easy to unwrap"

Unwrap via LN on receipt. So, yes!

I just hope everyone unwraps on receipt or doesn't use it at all. If its treated like LN is today, as if it has the exact same value as the sats its meant to represent, Gresham's law could take effect where dishonest mints take advantage of the mystery behind mystery sats.

You don't need to unwrap it if you pull it into your own mint. But you do need to withdraw it from the issuer mint on receipt, whether by unwrapping (to a Lightning wallet) or taking into your own mint (which is technically also just a Lightning wallet at the end of the day).

It's basically not something you want to hodl, but it's very easy to verify that you have the tokens before e.g. completing a sale. It's just better privacy and does not require both transacing parties to be online at the same time. (The mint does, ofc.)

I look at it as on-par with trust required for custodial Lightning wallet. I might keep $100 in there, but anything more goes to my own node or on-chain.

Thanks for the article, zapp n followed.

Lol prove it, zap via eCash :P

Update your client zaps in damus beta come with notifications now. 😂

But yes want to play with an ecash mint at some point. Very cool.

Lol I reached out to alby because I am too lazy to switch over to another LN wallet, they said NIP-57 is on the way and I believe them, call me a sucker! But i'll wait to be zappable!

When you create your first eCash tag us :) we want to be there for the birth

We have the best money in the world being used by zaps. Take the #ecashtrash somewhere else

eCash are sats, my dude. Cold, hard, 100% cash sats.

It's an L3 on top of LN, and it works 🤌

I stand corrected then, are these chaumian mint ecash?

Yes. The cashu protocol enables mint-to-mint transfer via LN, so someone can cash in their tokens at any mint (the receiver's mint will ask the issuer's mint to transfer the tokens automatically).

("Token" has a specific meaning in cashu, it's the format you use to encapsulate sats in an offline data package.)

Here you go, 77 sats in an eCash token. If you're quick, you can pull them into your Lightning wallet before someone else does:

Steps:

1. https://cashu-wallet.vercel.app/

2. Mint: https://legend.lnbits.com/cashu/api/v1/4gr9Xcmz3XEkUNwiBiQGoC

3. Wallet > Receive > Paste

4. Get LN invoice from wallet

5. Pay

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

Not sure if I did something wrong or if someone got there first but that was still pretty cool!

You must have done it wrong because they were still there. Have another go (tokens are single use, so here's a new one; same 77 sats though):

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

Lol maybe someone swept the invoice, rather get them to DM you or send it to your HEX or npub instead

Nah it was still there.

It said the mint was already added?

Yeah it's there by default, that's fine. Just go to the next step. Wallet > Receive > Paste token.

Wow this is actually very cool. I got an error when trying to receive the tokens but this is the first time I’ve grasped the chaumian mint concept. Only listened to a few pods but hadn’t dug much further

Ok, this time they were gone, so somebody else took them first 😂

Check your DMs.

#777777

Yes but they aren't federated mints, you can spin up one yourself using your node and the LN bits extension, lol calling eCash trash basically satoshi loathing

Apologies spoke before I took a good look at it 🫡 carry on

Lol no offense, that's why we're here, not that anyone reads our content :P

Well today you helped one person 🧡 appreciate you

Lol my wallet don't discriminate, i;ll take satoshis in any form #few

eCash is a bad naming choice then. Easily confused with the rebranded BCHA. Way to make it complicated for everyone 😂

Lol point taken, maybe we can call it CashToshis lol, or mt.Sats

Okay forgive me I couldn't resist

Why yes I have.