I don't think its really fair to blame the devs for not maintaining or finishing some experimental apps. but I agree with you that I wish they didn't leave them since they were promising

noStrudel isn't dead though, just taking me a while to finish the next update since I've been doing major refactoring on the 2yr old code base

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People want to see activity. I agree that experimental apps should have the freedom to push updates at will, but the reality is, **with what were building**, it will always remain experimental until this changes. Users want to see/feel change, ideally without any major regression. I suppose Agile is the buzzword here.

I want to see the human behind the app and I want to know that that human gives a damn.

Otherwise, I shall replace that human with Claude.

> I want to know that that human gives a damn.

Popped into my head as soon as I sent that note

The existing codebase needs to be maintained, while building the new one. There are architectural patterns to help with the step-by-step migration. You could have also found someone to help maintain it, while you work on the new version.

I just hardcoded a link to your relay view into Alexandria, yesterday, and I'm totally gritting my teeth at needing to rely on you to maintain that view. That shouldn't be making me so nervous. I can't work with tools that don't get repaired, when they are broken.

So, I can add "Build relay view" to my ever-growing list of Nostr functionality that I am building in order to build.

d3vils advocate:

you sound just like my unicredit banking app 😂

Devil's advocate:

A 2 year-old code base is a brand-spanking new code base.

sorry, I got lost at spanking 🤪

*groan*

At any rate, they are free to build whatever they like, or to build nothing.

I simply made a note of what sort of effort I expect from them, going forward, and what sort of effort I do not expect from them.

Also, I have no idea why I should care about someone's experiment. As if people willing to fiddle with code bases are some sort of rare breed. As if you have to pay people to play.

You pay people to *work*.