> [that] isn't "tracing the payment

Yes it is, it is the first step in very many traces. Everyone knows this, e.g. here's a coinbase article explaining how dust attacks are part of many traces -- and they rely on the sender's ability to know the destination of their funds. Lightning, of course, fixes this.

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cope harder.

the sending knowing the address of the recipient is not "tracing"

there is zero difference here to sending a letter to an address provided.

nobody calls that "tracing"

everybody knows this.

List of people who say that tracing includes sending money to a pubkey or address and watching it to see what happens next:

- Chainalysis

- Coinbase

- Gemini

- Wikipedia

- Bitcoin wiki

Many sources: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22dust+attack%22+or+%22dusting+attack%22+%22to+trace%22+or+%22tracing%22+%22bitcoin%22

List of people in denial:

- Kanzan

the "watching to see what happens next" is doing all the work in that sentence.

sending an output and knowing where it goes is not tracing.

you can do the first half (send dust!) but not the second (know what happens next!)

therefore it is not tracing.

everybody knows this. its pathetic you continue to expend social capital trying to redefine words just to FUD a little bit more.

Sure, watching to see what happens next is *critical* but sending the money in the first place is *also* a critical part of the trace, unless you can find someone who already sent money to your target. You need a pubkey to watch -- where so you get it? Either by paying it yourself or finding someone who already did. You don't get to exclude that critical step in almost every trace just because you find it inconvenient that monero makes it easy.

> you can do the first half (send dust!) but not the second (know what happens next!) therefore it is not tracing

First half of what? If your answer is "first half of tracing" then QED, sending money and identifying the destination is part of tracing. And that is what your answer "should" be because dust attacks are a perfect example of tracing -- a textbook example. And they completely rely on what you call "the first half." It's a critical step of practically every trace except ones where someone you're working with already sent the target some money.

bro this is sad