Real bitcoins aren't fucking statists.

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The state breathes the same air, drinks the same water, and lives on the same earth as bitcoiners. It was inevitable they would use (read: bend the knee) the same money.

Being euphoric and bullish for them doing so, is just being euphoric and bullish for bitcoin in general, because that's the operating system of a bitcoiner regardless of what happens. This moment was always going to happen... how could it not?

So yeah, we're psyched, not because of being statist, but because there was never any reason to not be psyched as bitcoin unleashes itself upon the world.

Well said.

It’s fascinating that you perceive the state as a living entity. I’ve encountered individuals who view the state as a deity or a higher authority, but never as a living being.

Well it is comprised of people.

The State is an abstraction, a fiction maintained by those who accept its legitimacy. The State is an extension of herd morality... it supports those who seek comfort, security, and equality over self-overcoming and excellence. The State is an institution that stifles individual greatness and promotes mediocrity.

Your heart is in the right place, Snotklap, but you are naive if you think you can realize the changes you seek without wielding collective power.

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No, I do not seek to bend the herd to my will, nor to chain myself to its desires. Let those who need the State cling to it, as weaklings cling to crutches.

Sounds like you are addicted to losing, then.

Do you not see? The moment you seize collective power, you are no longer the sculptor... you are the clay. The herd does not serve the strong; it devours them, makes them its priests, its functionaries, its slaves.

I've already won, I want you to win.

My friend, we are both the sculptor and the clay.

It is possible to have a benevolent government. I know it’s hard to believe today. But there have been good emperors of Rome, good presidents of the United States, good kings in European history.

Admitting defeat without even trying to improve governance isn’t noble, it’s pathetic.

True power is not in ruling over others, but in rising beyond them. Do not accept the moral and social frameworks imposed by the State, rather create your own values.

You speak of good emperors, good presidents, good kings... yes, good for whom? For the herd, perhaps, who fear the burden of their own freedom and gladly kneel before a ruler who promises order.

No, it is not I who am defeated, but those who still believe in this dream of better governance.

Lots of high-minded ideals.

Very little practicality, or acknowledgment of how the world is, rather than how you’d wish it to be.

What is truly impractical if not this endless cycle of governance? You believe yourself worldly, yet you are the one clinging to a fantasy... that power can be tamed, that the State can serve something higher than itself.

You call it "high-minded," but it is you who seek comfort in the low, in what is, rather than in what could be.

You both are on the poles. The middle way understands that it is strong individuals that make upa strong community and it is community that empowers individuals.

The “state” as we know it is a top down distortion, seeking to exert its morass and absorb genius. The hyper individual is a reaction to that, but no less preposterous.

Voluntary consensus is the embodiment of natural law and middle path. We must work together and only do so because we know within ourselves that our individuality is only existent in reflection and co-operation. Fortunately we now have a voluntary consensus network that engenders both individual expression and win-win consensus. by simply existing it changes the incentive structure. Bitcoin is the voluntary consensus network.

So grip tightly to your ideologies if you must, until you realize it’s all just a game and now we finally have an equal rule set applied to all.

Indeed. The Middle Way is the way.

It’s less about being on one pole or the other, and more about simply acknowledging reality as it is, rather than as one would wish it to be.

And the way knows the way. So we can relax… a lot.

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