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One final sort observation about Nostr based shopping. I wonder if others know good ideas.

A lot of you sellers are like “zap me and I’ll send you products”. Like it is never that simple. Even if you had a single product, your next questions are:

“where do I send this product?” “What name do I put on the package?”

It’s sorta awkward to ask a bitcoiner using a nym what their real name and address is.

And then the next piece of difficulty is normalizing addresses people give you. People always forget stuff in their address. The benefit of a real website with a form is you can validate this before the order is ever submitted.

Especially for non-US orders, I cannot just look at an address and be like, “yeah that definitely seems reasonable”. So typically I avoid non-US shipping, but sometimes it is worth it. Dealing with customs harmonization codes also makes me wanna scream, so that’s another reason.

Just food for thought. What are some of your internal procedures for handling ad-hoc orders on Nostr (or otherwise) which doesn’t require a lot of back and forth with the customer trying to get the basics down?

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If a buyer takes the initiative to zap me 42k for a pair of socks then they are ready to give me their real name and address for me to ship their stuff. It isn't awkward to ask them because they expect to be asked because they've paid for a product already.

As for normalizing addresses, I put it in the shipping service I use and alerts me if the address is invalid or missing information. Then I go back to the customer for clarification. There have been times when I had to ship internationally and their address was not in a format that I recognized. I just talked it out with them and they were helpful. Because they paid and want their product.

I think, at present, the nature of selling on nostr requires personal attention.

I understand. It is very doable. I use a shipping website for address normalization as well.

Another thing though is Nostr dms aren’t very good, and usually I route people to signal.

It’s all doable it’s just interesting. Maybe by going back to the basics and reinventing the wheel a bit here we eventually stumble upon a UX which is better for everyone.

correct. there are two different nostr DM format. if you send with coracle and the receiver is using primal, they won't get it..

as for the address people can use PO boxes for shopping on nostr.

I’ve thought for a long time there has got to be a better way to do mail. Like someone give me a secret one time code, and I just give that code and a box to the mail center and my package goes where it needs to go without me having to know/store my customers info.

Lol! Sometimes it’s more manual depending on the avenue. For example on https://www.thebullish.shop, I collect shipping info albeit with little to no validation.

With the ad hoc stuff I do on #Nostr (e.g. BOLT12 day and zapping notes), I’m ok with doing the back and forth. I’m almost always able to get what I need to send the customer their goods.

Again, a lot more manual at times but beats Shopify, eBay, Amazon, etc. I like it here and this is where I’ll build. 🤙

I designed my site with Wordpress since you can build a UX a normal people will understand but also you can self host it

Nice. Forgot about the self hosting option.