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Biggest? In what way? Cln and Eclair have also extensively been stress tested in different but complementary ways. Hard to measure stress testing across multiple dimensions.

Hanshan 10mo ago

thats fair I think

true it's hard to measure.

but I do think there's generally agreement that maaaybe cln comes close

but eclair definitely doesnt.

but regardless the point still stands.

a new vuln is disclosed every month or two.

this is a very complicated situation with A LOT of unknows.

partially *because there are different implementations trying to play nice together.

not saying people shouldn't use it, they should. I do.

but its not a production ready, stable network and people shouldn't sell it like it is.

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smallworlnd 10mo ago

In my ~4 years experience of running a node, I haven't experienced any critical issues. That's obviously a sample size bias because I've also seen others have to deal with difficult situations in recovering funds. Off the top of my head, maybe less than a dozen of those cases out of thousands of nodes and node runners I've interacted with directly or indirectly over the years.

My cln peers are among the most stable and consistent. Eclair is behind the biggest node in the network that has been heavily battle tested since the LN's inception.

I agree it's a complex machine that gets even more complex when more software gets built on top and potentially opens up new vulnerabilities. That said, I would argue that it is production ready based on my own experience.

Hanshan 10mo ago

Well fair enough.

That's good information and nice to hear.

Every year I wonder about spinning up a node

and every year I decide to wait another year lol

How many sats do you think you've lost from being force closed?

smallworlnd 10mo ago

I get get. It's not easy and it needs regular attention. I've lost a total of about 180k sats to force closes, the bulk of it last year during the ordinal craze. I'm still net positive over the 4 year period but it's rough.