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You make my points for me better than I even can. I point out that ears are irreducibly complex, so there's no way natural selection can go from no ears > ears in multiple tiny steps over generations. You "refute" that with artificial selection (intelligent design) going from already functional ears > bigger functional ears. Amazing, my point precisely. How many generations of artificial selection will it take to select cats with the biggest wings every generation until you end up with cats that can fly? And I don't understand how DNA works? 🤣

But like you say, why should you believe? I'm sure you have a fully logical explanation for the origin of life, one you've witnessed personally. I'm sure you have a perfectly logical reason for not sharing your explanation. Which is perfectly fine. Like I said, you won't have to answer to me. Just giving you an alternative perspective, you're a responsible adult with freedom of choice who gets to make their own decisions.

MAHDOOD 1y ago

I had a cat with 6 fingers. It had 5 babies. One had 7 fingers and the rest had 5.

Is this the work of god? Is he still experimenting to see what is intelligent design or not?

Over a long enough time horizon, and we are talking about millions of years, a mutation can yield something slightly beneficial. As you can see in the picture attached, it’s a slow gradual process. If you can’t comprehend that a mutation can lead to something beneficial then that’s not my problem. No one said that the ear has to be extremely complex over one mutation. The ear helps with balance and motion sensing. It could be that the animal had something that was useful for balance that wasn’t even an ear which then developed a very faint ability to detect sounds. Sounds are just vibrations after all. This improved survival and then various good and bad mutations over the years changed the shape of the ear. Natural selection weeded out the bad.

You’d have to do the experiment yourself. Artificially select for cats with extra skin under their front legs then select for low weight cats and flexibility. Keep doing that and then let me know how many generations it took. Cats already have shown that they’ll use that flap of skin to slow their fall like a parachute.

I do not have an explanation for the origin of life nor did I ever claim to. And just because I don’t have the answer to the origin of life, does not mean I should accept the one you provided with 0 evidence.

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f0xr 1y ago

"I do not have an explanation for the origin of life nor did I ever claim to."

Then why are you embarrassing yourself by suggesting that breeding cats for loose skin and low weight would eventually result in flying cats? I can tell you the outcome without running the experiment, because I understand enough about DNA and mathematics: you can run the experiment for a billion generations and you won't have a cat with wings. It's like saying "you need to do the experiment, if you let a monkey type on a keyboard long enough you might end up with the complete works of Shakespeare eventually." No you won't. Don't need to do the experiment, math already provides the answer.

I pointed out that atheism requires more faith than believing God. You criticized that as misleading. Your criticism was a defense of the theory of evolution. When I point out that evolution doesn't work scientifically and doesn't explain the origin of life anyway, you now don't have an explanation of the origin of life but that's okay?

So what's the disagreement? I have an explanation for the origin of life. You have no explanation for the origin of life. Yet somehow you're sure my explanation is wrong, without providing a better alternative. So why defend the theory of evolution to the point of sounding like an insane person? Life is all around us. There's an explanation for its origin. You're satisfied with having zero idea of that explanation. Yet for some reason you feel compelled to defend evolution to the bitter end, to the point of claiming the possibility of breeding flying cats? Why? Why not put that into the same category as the origin of life and say you don't know how different species came about? You don't have a better explanation of origins anyway, so you don't have a position to defend in the first place. You're not pro-something, you're just anti-God. So why the defensiveness? If you're so sure God doesn't exist, what are you afraid of? Why not just say, "I have no idea how life came to be or explanation for what I see around me, but God definitely doesn't exist so I'm going to continue doing whatever I please with no obligation to higher authority" like the typical fedora? That's at least a coherent claim, unlike trying to defend the theory of evolution for no apparent reason.

MAHDOOD 1y ago

You’re a clown that has no idea how evolution works lmao. I’m not anti god, I’m just waiting for evidence of gods existence. But since you can’t provide evidence of god, you’re believing in a fantasy.

Pray harder. Trust; don’t verify.