Perhaps people are just tired of shitcoiners constantly rehashing a debate that was settled over a decade ago

i used to dislike Mathew, now i agree with 95% of everything he says. he has enough technical understanding, sharp and objective. he definitely understands the game theory of bitcoin.

he is one of the few bitcoiners left on yt. rest just talks about price, or just evm immigrants.

if someone is not running a node on their laptop, i question some of the things they say tbh.

mechanic is calm and explains things in his videos really well.

you expect everyone to still talk about things calmly. you still have faith in core. and think this as just some minor idea or opinion disagreement. like few months ago.

mechanic said many times that he doesn't believe those saying about core in many of his previous videos. but if you are watching his last he might have said it. like many of us.

because at this point core is not naive, core is very aware of what they have been doing slowly for the past 2,3 years. they are very open tbh.

i don't understand what you are expecting at this point.

anyway, Bitcoin Mechanic completely agrees with me 😃 and therefore I don't need to watch any more of that video.

From 9m08s to 9m42s he says exactly my point: that the only way to discourage large OP_RETURNs is to punish miners who mine them, and that the only way to punish them is to delay propagation of those blocks.

My suggestion to the small-op_return folks is to put that idea on steroids: refuse to propagate any block with large op_returns, and "hide" that block within the node. That block is only "released" when a small-op_return block is mined on top of it later.

This is the obvious way to maximize the propagation-punishment while staying within consensus. That punishment is the main weapon available, and therefore it should be utilised to the maximum by those who feel strongly.

(As I mentioned elsewhere, I'm not sure I'm strongly against large op_returns; I'm just trying to help think through the options)