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This image presents a series of questions implying that Palestine lacks historical legitimacy compared to Israel, especially in the context of Islamic texts like the Quran. Let's address each point historically and factually:

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1. Who was its last king?

Palestine was not a monarchy in the modern era. It was part of:

The Ottoman Empire (1516–1917)

Then under British Mandate (1920–1948)

It had governors or muftis, not kings. The question is misleading by expecting a “king” as a mark of legitimacy.

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2. What year was it founded?

“Palestine” is a geographic and political term with ancient roots:

The name “Palestine” comes from the Philistines, an ancient people, and was used by Romans as “Syria Palaestina” around 135 CE after suppressing the Bar Kokhba revolt.

It was never a nation-state in the modern sense but was recognized as a geographic region for millennia.

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3. Who was leading it before 1948?

Under the British Mandate, Palestine was governed by British officials. Local leadership included:

The Arab Higher Committee

Influential figures like Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem

Palestinian Arabs did not have full sovereignty under British rule.

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4. If Israel didn't exist before 1948, why is it mentioned 43 times in the Holy Quran?

In the Quran, “Israel” refers to Prophet Jacob (Yaqub) and “Bani Israel” means “Children of Israel,” i.e., the descendants of Jacob. It does not refer to the modern state of Israel created in 1948.

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5. Why does the Quran mention Jews as “The Children of Israel”?

Because the term “Bani Israel” is used to refer to a specific lineage from Jacob, not a political state. It acknowledges the religious and historical lineage, not the legitimacy of any modern nation-state.

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6. Why isn’t “Palestine” mentioned in the Quran?

The Quran doesn't use the term “Palestine” because:

It references regions by older names such as Ash-Sham, Bayt al-Maqdis, or the Holy Land (al-Ard al-Muqaddasah).

These refer to areas that include modern-day Palestine, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria.

Absence of a modern name does not negate the historical existence of the region.

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Conclusion:

This image oversimplifies complex historical, religious, and political topics. The legitimacy of a people's existence or rights doesn't rely solely on modern definitions or appearances in scripture. Both Palestinians and Israelis have deep, intertwined histories in the region.

Would you like a historical timeline showing how both terms evolved over time?

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Frank 8mo ago

https://video.nostr.build/5d7c9a141fff92ad7a056dfe6bd57f38a2a69a8812afbcbc13b6047c52039a41.mp4

A crash course on history :

1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state

2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.

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AADHIL 8mo ago

The claim you've shared is a political argument presented in the form of a historical timeline. While it’s based on real historical entities, it simplifies and selectively interprets history to make a point. Here's a more balanced view:

What is true:

The land historically known as Palestine has been ruled by many different empires and entities over thousands of years — from the Canaanites, Israelites, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Crusaders, Ottomans, to the British.

There was no internationally recognized, independent nation-state called "Palestine" at most points in recorded history, in the modern sense of a sovereign country.

What is missing or misleading:

1. Modern nation-states are a recent concept: For most of history, the idea of a “state” as we understand it today didn’t exist. The absence of a formal “Palestinian state” in antiquity doesn’t discredit Palestinian national identity today — just like the Jewish people did not have a state for nearly 2,000 years but maintained a national identity.

2. Palestinian national identity: The Palestinian identity began forming as a distinct modern national movement during the late Ottoman period and especially under British rule in the 20th century — similar to how other modern national identities (like Syrian, Lebanese, or Jordanian) emerged around the same time.

3. The British Mandate of Palestine (1920–1948) explicitly referred to "Palestine" as a political and geographical entity, and Palestinians (Arabs living there) were recognized as such in documents and records.

4. UN and international recognition: Since the mid-20th century, Palestinians have sought statehood and have been recognized as a people with the right to self-determination by much of the international community. The State of Palestine has been recognized by over 130 countries and is a non-member observer state in the United Nations since 2012.

Conclusion:

While it's historically accurate that many different empires ruled the land and that a modern state named "Palestine" didn’t exist until recent times, that doesn’t mean the Palestinian people and their aspirations for statehood are illegitimate. History should not be used selectively to invalidate modern national identities.

Would you like a visual timeline or map of how control of this region changed over time?

AADHIL 8mo ago

This one gives answer for almost all your posts