A relay for each country: https://countries.fiatjaf.com/

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COOL CONCEPT EVEN IF PEOPLE USE VPNS TO GET AROUND IT.

Centralisation dans une *décentralisation*....ça me renvoit à mes cours sur nos institutions qui ont voulu fin des années 90 commencer la vague de décentralisation plus de 30 ans en fait les services ont finis par être deconcentrés in fine en plusieurs services centralisés sur divers secteurs et domaines de plus en plus fastidieux

Le même schéma est copié dans la plupart des grands groupes.....même au niveau management... plus personne s'y retrouve.. M'est avis même vous n'en prendrez compte

je suis d'accord avec toi !

On est bien d'accord Copinmalin.. Ces cours on peut les retrouver maintenant sur le site de CNAM l'une des meilleures institutions de formations pluridisciplinaires en France en plus accessibles à tous.

yes. Make targeting easier for the Feds.

Centralizing all of these relays under Fiatjaf domain 🥹

Could someone explain not technical person how to use it? ☺️🙈

the relay looks at your internet address and determines where in the world it's geographically located and organizes and serves that information to and from people in the same country where the internet address is located.

nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 does it use geo tags?

My secrets revealed.

Oops, open source is flawed

Check where your client has a Relays option and add a new relay as wss://countries.fiatjaf.com

That's all you need to do 🙂

Wrong.

👀

According to IBM the world would only ever need a maximum of 5 computers

Il y a en a déjà hyperpuissant depuis Obama qui gère presque tout dans le Monde dans l'Etat de Washington sous couverture de Ishare (Blackrock).. Vous devriez l'inviter dans les nids 😅💜👍

8000+ reachable bitcoin nodes NO COUNTRY

Relay adress should start with wss://

shouldn’t it?

Is there one to rule them all?

I've been thinking about how Nostr could parallel some of the other functionality that is on the other social media platforms, and I had an idea. Facebook groups is a huge draw for people, as a place for like minded people to collect and share information just within that group. The groups can be public and open, public but closed, or private and closed.

Maybe the way to create something like this within Nostr is with virtual nodes. A service could enable the creation of these virtual nodes that people could add to their node list on a client. The clients would need to allow the users to hide the node from the public list of nodes that is visible to anyone who visits an npub profile, so that is a change that would need to be done at the client level.

For virtual nodes, new users would request permission to join, and the virtual node admin/moderator(s) would be able to grant access to the node to that profile. Notes meant only for members of that group would have metadata that could prevent other nodes from storing it, making that node the only place it could be found. A client given a membership key could see it, but it would not be visible to anyone not on that list. This would probably need to be some kind of encryption key.

I think groups are important, both public and private, if we want nostr to be anything other than just a global broadcast system where everyone can see everything. A private node between me and my doctor could share information to my family or his colleagues, but nobody else could see it. An Executive Committee or a court could keep deliberations confidential on a virtual node until a decision is reached, then the full discussion could be made public for transparency. I'm sure there are plenty of use cases that we would want to explore.

This is just a brainstorm idea. But I remember how fast Facebook filled up during the 2008 elections in the US, and if people could self-organize with virtual nodes that could be made public or private, I think we would see Nostr explode in population very quickly.

What metadata is sufficient to prevent others from joining a node? And what do you mean with a node? A relay?

A relay, yes. But I don't have quick answers to the other question, it would need to be something that the developers figured out how to put together.

Can this be localised even further ? I mean if you can narrow posts by country, you can probably do it by state, city and locality from the ip address

Is this relay a good idea ?

I’m just thinking out loud

These IP ranges are quite fallible, but yes.

Logic could be changed to allow clients request to specific ranges.

Amazing

nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6: nostr is not decentralized. that's bad.

also nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6: let's centralize an entire country's notes into one location. you're welcome.

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Could it block VPN users too?!

No, and I don't think it should.

nostr:npub12gyrpse550melzx2ey69srfxlyd8svkxkg0mjcjkjr4zakqm2cnqwa3jj5 perfect test for the relay timeline view!

decentralized he says?

Normally only the relay would see ones location, but with your setup anyone can. This is a potential risk and I actually don't understand how you can suggest people that are most likely to be targeted by big-tech etc, to take it.

eg., anyone being bitcoin owner and maxi, that logs in on your server, will actually publish that they live in say, serbia or denmark. This is crucial identifying information for hackers (facebook).

Now, it is difficult in general to stay anonymous, but most people decide if they share pictures. But they won't think about protecting their ip address.

I would advise against this because you basically share part of the ip address of the devices that are connecting to you, publicly to anyone, while it is classified as personal data.

And your service will be targeted by bad actors to get more information about nostr users.

Also, how does it work? If a note is posted on your relay, and after a few months or longer someone queries for it, do you still have the geolocation data of that note stored in a database? How long do you keep this data? How is it stored?

I do appreciate the fact you openly stated this, nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6. Others can be already doing the tracking without telling the users.

In the end, people must learn to use tor or a vpn to mask their ip address.

A relay for each county....

Can we use Nostr without Internet (or even electricity)?

No.

No

relay per language makes sense

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"... scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."

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