Yes, but my point is a larger one. In many other countries, nobody would act to police an area, unless some distant government did so or some private companies saw a potential for profit in it.

Germanic peoples just see that something needs to be done, build a team, and do it. And rather than having 3 groups patrolling one larger town, they would tend to split the town up into three sections and the residents of each section would patrol their own section.

I didn't realize that this is a Germanic trait until a bunch of foreigners moved here and I saw that cities full of foreigners don't have these clubs. Everything public just falls apart and each person just takes care of himself and demands the local government do something about the crime and decay.

But in the rural areas, the citizenry *are* the local government.

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Indeed. In order to maintain a so-called private society you need willing and hard working individuals.

Culture is important in that sense. Libertarian ideas are great irrespective, but if you want to make it happen in reality you must move to a town or create your own (as the Oranians did). It is wise to admit people into such a convenant community that share your values and ostracize those within who don't uphold them.

Tldr, egalitarian thinking will kill any successful private city/town. Certain values are just too important. A private city run by communist poets won't last long because they are all too lazy to ensure electricity is delivered, streets are cleaned etc.

Private non profit initiatives by people of a community isn't anarchy? (It's the definition day todayπŸ˜€)

The same exact thing has happened here also in some, rural at most, areas. Some times by wild boar hunter teams πŸ˜€. It's a natural response i should say. If a private, with profit, or a public state solution is better or not, depends on the case i think...

They're state-registered nonprofits that can write donations off their taxes and have the mayor and town council give speeches at their parties and donate to their coffers. When Corona hit, these clubs (Rifle Club, Football Club, Church Ladies Club, etc.) all got called to the mayor's office and they organized purchasing groceries for shut-ins and stuff.

They're like an auxiliary arm of the local government, rather than something πŸ’― private or πŸ’― public. They also influence the government, as the government is dependent upon them for society to function well. German government relies heavily on this sort of volunteerism.

So Germany relies heavily on such volunteers πŸ€”. This is interesting. On one hand it is very good because it creates social aware and active citizens that can offer solutions on certain occasions and i am sure that they learn useful stuff with seminars etc in the process. On the other hand, relying on football clubs etc as a response to whatever, well not that good. Kind of reminds me of sending 15 year old children to deal with the soviets on the heimatfront or something. An interesting experiment nonetheless though. Keep us informed about this if you like...

It's not an experiment. πŸ˜… Some of these clubs are hundreds of years old. The local volunteer fire department has member lists going back to the 1400s.

This is just how Germany works and always has been how it worked. My Opa was in the Rifle Club, for instance. And in the Soldier and Warrior Club, the Small Farmer's Club, and the Maria Club.

We also have the Hunter's Club. That's huge. And the Archery Club.

The Marksmen's Club is another. Very famous. They originated as town militias.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sch%C3%BCtzenverein

The local Maypole has a shield from each club or guild listed. The guilds are another local public/private grouping that is very common.

Interesting. That's much better than the unofficial "watching tv stupid shows on the couch" club that most people here belong.