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What a spectacular view. Some say Anapurna is one of the hardest.

lol, i doodle quite a bit too, though i wish it was half as good as your sketch!

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Hi Pam,

The Apple Logo story is a bit of urban lengend I'm afraid. According to the designer of the logo the bite was there simply to establish that the fruity image was not another kind of fruit, like a cherry.

I don't entirely buy that explanation either. My first exposure to Apple Inc. was in the very late '70s or perhaps very, very, early '80s. This was at a time when computer stores were popping up all over the place to sell hobbyist computers like the Imsai and Altair, and long before the Apple ][. The father of a friend of mine opened a little store that he called "Lillipute". On the wall he hung an advertisement banner from Apple Inc. The product being advertised was a single board computer. No power supply, no screen, no keyboard, just the circuit board with the processor and some memory. These kinds of products were common in those every early days.

The price for that Apple board, boldy emblazoned on that banner, was $666. That convinced me, at the time, that the bite out of the apple in the logo was Eve's bite of the forbidden fruit. It was Eve's bit that ultimately lead to the Apocalypse in the book of Revelations and the Mark of the Beast. So I think Steve Jobs was making a little biblical joke for the benefit of his customers. A kind of early easter egg.

Anyway, we'll probably never really know for sure.

As for Alan Turing, the apple he ate was never tested, so it not certain that it was laced with the cyanide found in his house. The apple itself was _half_ an apple with a few bites taken out of it; so not similar to the logo.

He had an experiment running in his house, and that experiment required cyanide -- a substance he used quite frequently in his experiments. So it is possible that his death was the accidental result of inadvertenly getting some of the solution on his hands. It only takes 200mg to be lethal. He would have known the symptoms and would have understood the implications as he lay, dying, in his bed.

His mother thought this to be the most likely explanation. She had frequently told Alan to be careful and wash his hands, and he would dismiss her concerns.

From: pam<-DerekRoss at 11/27 08:27

> This would be one of the more popular ones - on his codes, breaking the codes, WW1, WW2, Nazis and the many many things named after Turing. And that bite on Apple logo - apparently it was based on the bite Turing took on a cyanide filled apple which led to his death. I don't know if it's fabricated or real.

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> Have a wonderful day uncle Bob!

CC: #[4]

these are great stories, Uncle Bob and i was laughing half the time on Eve and washing those hands! There's a book by Jessica Livingston (co founder of Y Combinator and wife of Paul Graham) where she interviews many founder - one chapter is dedicated to Steve Wozniak - she doesn't interpret the interview, rather publish it as a conversation between them both and in it he was explaining the earlier days of Apple, and exactly like you said how they went about by modular I'd reckon ?

But wow, it's really nice to read from you on this direct experience. Thank you for sharing

Btw, i've notice Derek Ross name next to mine several times tho he isn't in the conversation, perhaps it might be some error.

This would be one of the more popular ones - on his codes, breaking the codes, WW1, WW2, Nazis and the many many things named after Turing. And that bite on Apple logo - apparently it was based on the bite Turing took on a cyanide filled apple which led to his death. I don't know if it's fabricated or real.

Have a wonderful day uncle Bob!

love when devs ask for wishlist - it's like christmas came too soon =)

I remember our early days of conversation on how nice it is to key-in topics into nostr.band and read the conversations around it. Eventually it got too heavy and messy to follow through.

I think a few things can boost this as you already have a way to detect words on Nostr

1. Ability of AI to understand sentences and bridge the match

2. People can decide if they want to narrow search based on various credibility factors

3. for users to be able to find certain things from a user's post - twitter does a great job with narrowing to individual post search.

Btw why are you not funded ? Did you not apply ?

And what is your business model like ? Are you selling this feature to clients to be integrated ? or is it a subscription model where you get a cut ? Or is it a basic + premium model ? just wondering how you monetize

that's good to know! Maybe if someone else has a problem similar to this, they can try this method first. For all you know, it can improve a good amount of % of customer support / onboarding experience for snort

Sorry to hear that. I had that problem early on, but somehow it went away. Surely if we can figure what causes it, we can prevent it from repeating. I'm on desktop view, and initial load was slow, but after that its good. Where are you viewing from, and could you try giving it some time for the initial load?

trying snort after a long time and it has improved significantly - ease of use, great design, speed, and with so much content that is being maximised. Great comeback nostr:npub1v0lxxxxutpvrelsksy8cdhgfux9l6a42hsj2qzquu2zk7vc9qnkszrqj49 , nostr:npub1r0rs5q2gk0e3dk3nlc7gnu378ec6cnlenqp8a3cjhyzu6f8k5sgs4sq9ac and all working on it

i wouldn't know. Are you Alexander Elbakyan by any chance? I do know Zlib founders Anton Napolsky and Valeriia Ermakovawere were arrested in Argentina sometime last year for 1 yr and 3 yrs prison sentencing each. I don't know what happened to them after that

reading on Aaron Swartz, and it's sad and crazy how he was subjected to federal prison up to 95 years and pressurized by gov't who intended to set some form of "public example of moral compass" on their definition - knowing he was a teen whiz who co founded Reddit, RSS etc - all for the reason of downloading (not distributing) federal funded (aka tax payer funded) research papers. He was pressurized to a point he committed suicide. Aaron would have loved Nostr and the Nostr community here.

🤍🫂They say the best flowers are always picked first, the brightest star dims first, the nicest people tend to go first. I’m so sorry for your loss, Jack. Andrew (Dewey) definitely has the best and coolest youngest sibling definition, with a big presence of love. Much love to you and to your family in this time of sorrow. And thank you for doing so much for all of us this past month despite your heart breaking into a million pieces. We appreciate you, Jack. May we always remember to leave people feeling a little better, a little happier like Andrew did.

The song is ended, but the melody lingers on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJDU0O1C7q8

It's an interesting idea. Technically, there are relays that can connect like-minded communities. Conceptually, I think societal divisions aren't organic or inherent; they result from political and media influence. Extremism, whether woke or conservative, fuels polarization. Politicians exploit this by inducing hatred for the opposing party, and gaining support even if individuals don't fully align with the politician. People unknowingly become more extreme, more emotional - which benefits politicians not the people. For gov’s to listen to the people and for politicians to work based on what people want (and not the other way around), then people have to unite and reduce extremism. Strengthening voices requires unity and open dialogue—this is just my perspective.

PS : nice pic

There were a few conversations I reflected on this week, and in most of them, I could and should have responded better.

1. Identifying women as a group tied to gossiping :

The idea of gossip is to get together and bitch abt other people - something I don’t have the time, see a need nor enjoy. If I share something in confidence, it’s to people I trust and people who are growth focused. But given I grew up with a bunch of boys, I know more boys who gossip than women do, just saying. I should have just made fun of this and leave it be =)

2. Women are often attacked on Nostr :

Controversial take, but often times, it’s crying wolf, and attention seeking. Sometimes it’s true (and happens everywhere else too). ‘Me too’ movement brought out good and bad.

3. This idea that powerful women only rise because of Affirmative Action :

This take was immature - I should have just made fun of it and leave it be. I almost went to prison this year fighting for merits in a country that promotes AA for majority (story for another day). But there seems to be a real confusion in the US (and Canada).

4. Do merits count ? :

Of course. Don’t promote anyone who don’t qualify.

But, bias exist against women and minority. At an engineering interviewing at 20, first qs : why I decided to get a job and not get married. Second Qs : if I had kids, will I continue working.

5. Does bias exist against white men?

Yes. I have a friend, ridiculously smart Texan, did not get promoted because of AA for women, and the women he was going against was not even close to his capabilities and effort he put in. It’s a real problem in the US. Way lesser compared to women in general, but can’t pretend it doesn’t exist.

Also unfortunately white men can't make fun of blacks, minorities and are expected to succeed because they are white. I mean there are many who are clueless, mean and shallow toward other cultures, but not all. And unfortunately everyone is subjected to the same bias.

6. Are all male bosses jerks ?

No. Both the male bosses I’ve had pushed my career very far. My brother is an amazing manager too. My team has had great men and women who both work smart and hard. But there will be a jerks here and there.

7. Are men who are right / far right have diff expectations of women, compared to men who are left / far left.

Tough one. It’s both yes and no. This is something I brought up and I should have worded better. I'm from SEA but my gramps is a Texan Republican and a fine man, a good man, and everything a gentlemen should be. I have male friends who are right and left in the US , and both are great. But sometimes here at Nostr, it does feel a bit overwhelming. Not all, just a few .

8. Is right > left, left >right ?

I’m politically atheist and I am not a fan of either.

But I think if Nostr wants to be open for all, then the builders and the early adopters have to have an open mindset to be open for all. Otherwise even if people want to join, they will feel unwelcome. Right now there are many eject buttons.

At the end of the day, people hold on to a set of believes, whether it’s religion, culture, politics, sun, star, science etc. And get shaken up when someone else believe something else.

I've def made a lot of mistakes along the way and I find reflection to be important and its a learning curve for me to be more open. And humour. Def adopt humour.