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> normie dating apps are incredibly bleak
That's been my limited experience, yes. nostr:npub1w7agf7akg5kqzjrc9ulhezf3c8n3v8q9vp6hkxatm6nfak6swzyqe9tpn3 was proposing a federated dating app using ActivityPub. Bring it on!
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> Most users are not as technically skilled as you or I
I thank you for your assumption that I am technically skilled : )
> they would expect to be able to go to the offender's profile and go, "There! SEE!"
The fediverse has post deletion. It federates, but we have to trust every server that's received it to honour it. Some people have tools that auto-delete their posts after X time. Trolls can also use Block (on accounts and whole servers) to revoke access to their posts.
nostr:npub12ev52n6aj5g5hw7656xu6vpx3nq0jufxe5g79etnnws2xd7pfn2s2ju7wj So now that I think about it, my whole thread was kind of nonsense. But when I said Vanishing Messages, I was thinking of some of the particular implementations from other apps like Wire, that some people like, and want fedi apps to add.
As I said in my conclusion, this is a lot of effort for minimal return, and IMNSHO we have much higher dev priorities (eg portable accounts, better moderation and opt-in search tools).
nostr:npub12ev52n6aj5g5hw7656xu6vpx3nq0jufxe5g79etnnws2xd7pfn2s2ju7wj
> Most users are not as technically skilled as you or I
I thank you for your assumption that I am technically skilled : )
> they would expect to be able to go to the offender's profile and go, "There! SEE!"
The fediverse has post deletion. It federates, but we have to trust every server that's received it to honour it. Some people have tools that auto-delete their posts after X time. Trolls can also use Block (on accounts and whole servers) to revoke access to their posts.
nostr:npub12ev52n6aj5g5hw7656xu6vpx3nq0jufxe5g79etnnws2xd7pfn2s2ju7wj So now that I think about it, my whole thread was kind of nonsense. But when I said Vanishing Messages, I was thinking of some of the particular implementations from other apps like Wire, that some people like, and want fedi apps to add.
As I said in my conclusion, this is a lot of effort for minial return, and IMNSHO we have much higher dev priorities (eg portable accounts, better moderation and opt-in search tools).
nostr:npub12ev52n6aj5g5hw7656xu6vpx3nq0jufxe5g79etnnws2xd7pfn2s2ju7wj
> Most users are not as technically skilled as you or I
I thank you for your assumption that I am technically skilled : )
> they would expect to be able to go to the offender's profile and go, "There! SEE!"
The fediverse has post deletion. It federates, but we have to trust every server that's received it to honour it. Some people have tools that auto-delete their posts after X time. Trolls can also use Block (on accounts and whole servers) to revoke access to their posts.
nostr:npub1euecgv2cv6kz7z5aqfh85xggpns8c9hr7xgvmzxj6y4kx24az6wqwxsxl0
> Does this mean the majority of people on Fedi are alone?
No. It just means they probably didn't meet their partners using normie dating apps, and if they did, they were lucky.
> I didn't know the phrase catfish. An Americanism?
No idea. I think it's just a netism?
nostr:npub1chxf9ml38rqzxkxut5ud0pacqp4fjhgcwqmw35hjgqckxa4c0d0qmluyvk
> in French we derogatorily call FB "FaceDeBouc", which translates to "Goat Face"
Someone introduced me to the phrase "goat rodeo" today. Now my tired brain is merging the two. Love it! 😂
nostr:npub1hnkg037dvphgtlyav56h7d2h7rc42qw3pzp0xxhuazh5etcx74fqx7w7ux
Can't find OTFOI in a web search on a couple of platforms, I may have just invented it. On The Face Of It.
nostr:npub1dc07dfupqmgagu9r4p3ndyv47q6zmnfqguneqmra6jvuadwpxdpqe6aqev
> matrix is running on the very securely encrypted Cloudflare ...
Matrix.org may well be, which I don't support. It's also, in my recent experience, overloaded and buggy.
But one of the advantages of matrix rooms is that they are not dependent on any one homeserver. Once the admins publish these addresses, the same rooms can be found at:
* #fediverse-marketing:matrix.iridescent.nz
* #fediverse-city:matrix.iridescent.nz
nostr:npub16mnm47tsg3yurkqacgunnhmj7thmzeck8r0r3aphwxqqlpf24ges2uf35z
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As a working example of this, take the VOICE room that started as;
#VOICEChat:matrix.org
It's now also accessible as;
#VOICEChat:matrix.iridescent.nz
Other room members can create local addresses on the homeserver they use, and these too can be published as ways of addressing the same room.
Room history is a bit more complicated. But every homeserver has a history from the time a person using it joined, and complete histories can be synced using the protocol.
nostr:npub1gwu0hv66kpy6wpvphf4tzern3q7fsjmge7x0zc290kyzt8c0e3dq3dsvwp
> Pretty much the entire movie takes place in the Quantum Realm.
Ae, I've seen the trailer, but it still doesn't seem much weirder than GotG 3.
> the entire landscape being CGI might have made it too cartoony for some
I call this Star Wars Prequel Syndrome. It was a problem in Black Panther 2 and a number of other recent superhero films.
> I think it might be partially about expectations. Dr. Strange is right there in the name
Fair point.
nostr:npub1hcns7myljqlq2g53hfn9h3sl4mx5g3kkvkljwf5tl54tud0ag8dq0yacmj
> I lost interest after season 2
Totally understandable, but you're missing out. 2 was barely watchable (unlike 1 which was a trashfire), but 3-4 are heaps better. Particularly because (minor spoiler) they write themselves out of the limitations of the prequel situation...
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> Also goat rodeo
Never heard of it. Just looked it up. Love it! 🤣
Perfect description of my life through 2020-22. Thanks for introducing me to it.
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> it is just a mirror of their account on "X"
Ah. Makes sense. I thought those Titter echo servers weren't working anymore because of the third-party API closures. Maybe I was just seeing posts from before that...
BTW since I haven't mentioned it yes, it's great to see another GNU social veteran still kicking around Doug : )
nostr:npub12ev52n6aj5g5hw7656xu6vpx3nq0jufxe5g79etnnws2xd7pfn2s2ju7wj
> It allows people to do harm without fear of the offending Toot being produced
Screenshots?
nostr:npub1zfecyklxegy9j65pxfnxtuajkkgv2635n50qx9af26sryezwlxhsk8t8h0
> targeting a completely different threat model
Your thoughts on:
https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110865589026707378
?
> if I trust a server to delete messages
So you're talking about someone using the same server you are, one that you both trust? In which case, an XMPP or matrix homserver could be perfectly suitable, as long as your accounts are on the same one, and you trust the operator.
Doesn't delta.chat create exactly the same issues? You'd need to be using it with accounts on the same mailserver.
"When someone approaching you online has very few friends on Facebook or followers on Instagram, this could be a red flag for catfishing."
https://vpnoverview.com/internet-safety/cybercrime/catfishing/
No point me using normie dating apps then, I don't even *have* FarceBook or IntraGrope accounts. Women are just going to suspect I'm a catfish 🥺
#CatFish #CatFishing
#FreudianTypoOfTheWeek
Catfist (v.): A physically aggressive attempt to catfish by someone who really doesn't understand how it's done.
"When someone approaching you online has very few friends on Facebook or followers on Instagram, this could be a red flag for catfishing."
https://vpnoverview.com/internet-safety/cybercrime/catfishing/
No point me using normie dating apps then, I don't even *have* FarceBook or IntraGrope accounts. Women are just going to suspect I'm a catfish 🥺
#CatFish #CatFishing
nostr:npub138xqt2h03sees2rtlu7y98llgv2y5yr5d3ypefcw49kf036pgt3sxhpcnq
> assuming a trusted server
... which you can't really, unless it's yours (or operated by someone you know and trust) and not federated with one that isn't.
> to keep your inbox tidy
This doesn't require the message to be deleted anywhere but in the UI.
> the vanishing messages feature was for: if the device was compromised after sending
Fair point, I'll have to think about that one. That might actually be a legitimate use case.
nostr:npub138xqt2h03sees2rtlu7y98llgv2y5yr5d3ypefcw49kf036pgt3sxhpcnq
> the vanishing messages feature was for: if the device was compromised after sending
Me:
> Fair point, I'll have to think about that one
So I thought about it. I think I addressed in the comment here about the theoretical possibility of end-to-end deletion?
nostr:npub1g3tprcceayy4gnhr32vyjec7xxyd6gsyp8yd54qfxvqg7m8cz5dqh3g90q
> cannot by forgetfulness leave more than n days of our chat history on their device
This presumes that both the server *and* the client app respect the deletion request. My point is that there is no obvious way to guarantee a message deletion or to confirm it (without asking your contact).
That said, if there's a way to do end-to-end deletion - such that your trusted contact's app receives the delete request and does it regardless of the server - that would be a different matter.
nostr:npub1g3tprcceayy4gnhr32vyjec7xxyd6gsyp8yd54qfxvqg7m8cz5dqh3g90q I openly admit that I may not be as informed as I thought about the matters I'm commenting on here. Anyone who comments on such matters without considering that possibility is almost certainly in that situation ; )
nostr:npub1g3tprcceayy4gnhr32vyjec7xxyd6gsyp8yd54qfxvqg7m8cz5dqh3g90q
> cannot by forgetfulness leave more than n days of our chat history on their device
This presumes that both the server *and* the client app respect the deletion request. My point is that there is no obvious way to guarantee a message deletion or to confirm it (without asking your contact).
That said, if there's a way to do end-to-end deletion - such that your trusted contact's app receives the delete request and does it regardless of the server - that would be a different matter.
nostr:npub13wfgha67mdxall3gqp2hlln7tc4s03w4zqhe05v4t7fptpvnsgqs0z4fun Thanks again, I was feeling quite distressed earlier and your comments have helped to put a smile back on my dial : )
Off to charge now...