What do you mean?... Wasabi doesn't waste your sats like Whirlpool does since Wasabi makes all your sats into private amounts without creating any unspendable nonprivate leftovers.
If you've bought coins with KYC information, you should definitely coinjoin with Wasabi Wallet before buying coins from non-KYC sources, that way your ID doesn't get associated with your new funds.
If I didn't understand toxic change, then I wouldn't have been able to unpeel the toxic change from those Whirlpool transactions, would I?... 😂 As you can see, I can identify Whirlpool change every time, but you can't identify Wasabi change, want to know why?
Wasabi ELIMINATES toxic change instead of peeling it like Whirlpool does in the tx0 transaction. Whirlpool exposes its users' change in a self spend transaction, making it non private. Wasabi doesn't expose its users' change because it coinjoins your entire balance. You can read more about how Wasabi eliminates change and how Whirlpool exposes it here: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/toxic-change-wabisabi-bitcoin-coinjoin-privacy
uhh yeah that's my point... You can't spend the non private change from Whirlpool, it gets frozen and put in the bad bank. Wasabi Wallet doesn't have a "bad bank" at all since Wasabi doesn't introduce these privacy flaws created from Whirlpool tx0 transactions. Wasabi makes ALL of your coins private because EVERY spend is a coinjoin, without wasting your any of your BTC like Whirlpool does when it turns them into non private outputs that can't be spent again.
Oh really? What data do you claim Wasabi is selling to "chainalysis" since Wasabi is designed not to collect any user data at all?
Samourai Wallet collects their user's data which they can use to sell to chainalysis companies: Samourai's wallet is designed to spy on their users the second they create or import their wallet by sending their full transaction history and future unused addresses to Samourai's server. Not even coinjoining will prevent Samourai from knowing your new addresses, even your "mixed" ones.
Wasabi does not collect this information because it is privacy software, not surveillance software like Samourai.
I am shilling Wasabi.
As you can see from the amounts and addresses I posted above, Whirlpool has a known flaw allowing you can find the leftover coins and new addresses of people who enter the Whirlpool by looking at the tx0 self spend.
Wasabi does not have this flaw. ALL your coins are made private, there is no "bad bank" or "toxic change" leftover. People who send you coins in Wasabi only ever know the address they sent to, cannot identify any of your other addresses:
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Wasabi cannot sell any data to chain analysis companies because Wasabi does not collect any data. By default, your IP address is masked by Tor and your wallet addresses are never linked to each other thanks to client side block filters.
The reason Finch is lying about Wasabi is because, unlike Samourai, Wasabi's coordinator code is open source, so ANYONE can run their own and outcompete the closed source monopoly Samourai tried to create out of the Bitcoin privacy industry.
This is a lie. All Whirlpool coinjoins can be unpeeled to reveal this change, it's trivial to do because of a fatal privacy flaw called 'tx0' that merges your coins without yourself instead of coinjoining them first.
Go ahead and post any example of a Whirlpool transaction on the blockchain, I can easily unmix the change created by the new entrants:
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"132 arrests" is a fake meme spread by Samourai to scare people out of coinjoining: https://twitter.com/Kruwed/status/1636025270330064896
"132 arrests" is a fake meme spread by Samourai to scare people out of coinjoining: https://twitter.com/Kruwed/status/1636025270330064896
You mean Lionel should just use Wasabi Wallet to coinjoin that way Lionel gets MASSIVE privacy without any help needed whatsoever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbOAbXjzBJg
Kortik, you are lying again. Every single line of Wasabi's coordinator code is free and open source software, ANYONE can run their own coordinator just like they can run their own wallet: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/tree/master/WalletWasabi.Backend
You seem to be incredibly confused: No amount of "strong" or "weak" mixing will ever make you private once your xpub is leaked. That's why privacy wallets like Wasabi use BIP157/BIP158 block filters so your xpub is never leaked. Samourai's wallet collects their users' full past and future transaction history data by default even though it is not required for them to do so.
Doxxic change can't always be coinjoined later: The minimum Whirlpool size is 0.001 BTC, so any amount of change less than 99,999 sats (plus fees) gets wasted.
What is meant by the mantra "make every spend a coinjoin" is literally "make every spend a coinjoin": There's no reason you should ever make a non private transaction that consolidates your inputs. Sacrificing the privacy of users by creating a tx0 transaction instead of making every spend a coinjoin is completely unacceptable.
I don't trust either, I verify: Show me how you can trace an output without a unique partner from a Wasabi coinjoin. Here's an example: https://mempool.space/tx/01a1a055719129397fb8344b5a09e6cfe72868c8e1d750e621d8b580c96bf77b
You can see that bc1qgsfth9mndvpjt64za7c4hrc550la0wartupa4c received 2.66401256 BTC, which is not a standard amount. Why don't you tell me which input address(es) this output belongs to?
Whirlpool doesn't make every transaction a coinjoin: The tx0 that creates equal sized outputs for Whirlpool is a self spend transaction with no other participants. This transaction makes it completely transparent that a single wallet owns inputs consolidated to create the tx0, as creating nonprivate change that gets wasted because it can't be coinjoined at all.
If you want to make every transaction a coinjoin, Wasabi Wallet will do this since for you since every payment you receive gets spent directly in a round, reducing your privacy footprint to a single address.
"Making the wallet as light as possible" is not an excuse for Samourai spying on their users' xpubs. Other light wallets like Wasabi use compact block filters so your xpub is never leaked. BIP157/BIP158 provides a private way to run a light wallet even on mobile - https://medium.com/breez-technology/as-free-as-the-breez-building-lightning-to-make-bitcoin-mobile-4f3d2cca22eb
Doxxic change is NOT a requirement for equal outputs to exist. Wasabi Wallet's coinjoins eliminate traceable change, which entirely solves Whirlpool's issue of creating unspendable non private coins: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/toxic-change-wabisabi-bitcoin-coinjoin-privacy
There is no "funding transaction" required in Wasabi Wallet. If you import your existing (segwit or taproot) keys, any your coins in your addresses would go directly into giant coinjoins without any intermediate transactions merging them & revealing common address ownership.
Wasabi Wallet solves the privacy problem of xpub leaks , even for your Ledger, Trezor, and Coldcard. It uses client side block filters so no addresses are ever sent to third party servers, you download the entire block your transaction is contained in. Check out BIP157 and BIP158.
Submitting your transactions one by one instead of consolidating is disincentivized by the Whirlpool coordinator's fee structures. Since the fee is fixed at 5% of the size of the pool, merging your inputs before coinjoining is massively discounted compared to paying that 5% fee on every individual input.
Wasabi does not have "premix" transactions. Your coins are consolidated within a coinjoin with 150-400 other inputs, so no two payments are ever linked to each other. Anyone who sent you Bitcoin only knows a single address belongs to you: The one they paid.