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Very good, no need your fake democracy on paper only. Worry about your own retarded palce of residence.

SW enabled Bitcoin use as cash Keonne and Bill are The First victims of war on cash

And Bitcoin is digital cash make no mistake!

Monero already have stealth addresses

Sure use it why not?

SW devs who are still in jail serving time making Bitcoin like it supposed to be private and based on probabilities and not deterministic when spending

Privacy of monero suppose to be by default on Bitcoin oh well this is the nature of Homo sapiens

BIP47 is primarily designed for entities handling repeated payments to and from counterpartiesβ€”think exchanges, mining pools, salary-paying companies, merchants, and the like. Targeting these players makes perfect sense, as they're now the biggest culprits behind address reuse, which erodes privacy for the entire Bitcoin ecosystem.

Silent Payments (SP), by contrast, aren't a superior alternative; they simply don't aim at the same high-impact users or problems.

Although one does not require notification txn if both parties are online and actively interacting synchronous P2P via Soroban. https://medium.com/samourai-wallet/wallet-update-0-99-96-introducing-soroban-adc9a36a7ddb

A standout feature of BIP47 is its notification transaction, which eliminates the need for synchronous communication between parties. It seamlessly conveys the sender's identity while serving as a key backup for the receiverβ€”all without relying on any server infrastructure. Yes, this introduces a partially public element, but that's a worthwhile trade-off for true serverless operation.

Far from a drawback, the notification transaction is a clear win: receivers are far less vulnerable to dusting attacks, and senders avoid crafting transactions with Taproot outputsβ€”a script type that privacy-conscious users rightly shun for on-chain exposure.

SP, meanwhile, invites dust attacks, burdens wallets with heavy scanning overhead, and still demands those privacy-compromising Taproot outputs.

The core operational gap between the two - BIP47 involves checking each transaction output against a set of monitored addresses (say, n of them), while SP piles on extra work by computing the P0 value for every output scanned.

Crucially, this P0 computation in SP is decoupled from the number of tracked addresses, which is why some argue labels could boost SP's scalability.

But don't overlook the serverless edge here: BIP47's model keeps everything decentralized and lightweight, with no central coordinator or server to introduce single points of failure, trust assumptions, or downtime risks.

SP's added loadβ€”tied to output volume rather than tracked addressesβ€”may scale with block size limits, but it still demands scanning every output in every block for every user, ballooning computational costs in a fully serverless setup.

Wallet recovery under SP - That's a nightmare: reprocessing the entire blockchain's outputs from genesis.

And on security - BIP47 stays lean and public-key-only, exposing nothing sensitive during monitoring.

SP, however, requires the scanning private key (b_scan) to live on the node doing the heavy lifting - a risky concession in any serverless environment where nodes must operate independently and securely.

BIP47's serverless purity keeps privacy robust without these compromises.

look at the picture of what it looks like on the recivers end one can even Refund and notification txn lets you prove recovery process.

Do you still need BTCPay Server? no need for complicated server set up or domian hosting etc... just post your PM8 and you are done.

IYKYK adding instance of fulcrum to it instead of electrs

Here is a stonewallx2 Collaborative txn using two wallets each party shares txn fee over soroban no other wallet can do this.

In a stonewall txn the dummy output goes back to the original wallet owner and the payment goes to the merchant. In a stonewallx2 this video, the tx initiator makes a payment with an output to the merchant, and the collaborator gets an output back for the same amount.

Stonewall breaks the common input ownership heuristic because it has coinjoin identical output sizes.

An observer of a stonewall tx has to decide if it is a stonewall or stonewallx2. But there is no way to tell by looking at the transaction.

https://blossom.primal.net/cfc0b331b86b52e123977894e7f4071b225459d53716585baf2e23996e739ed2.mp4

They are none.

They are just afraid of Samourai wallet(Ashigaru) there is a huge stereotype among bitcoin devs fucking pussies.

In reality SW is century ahead of every wallet out there there is no comparison

Prove me wrong.

Announcement is cool but I’m not waiting for something better I just do what’s available now. I’m sure it will be better and more efficient.

Now I’m up to 110Th/s together wit my bitaxes at about 2kWatts of power usage, which I direct towards my own node/ stratum server my chances to hit a block

Chance per block: 1 in 6,786,909

Chance per day: 1 in 47,131

Time estimate: 129 years

That’s all that I care πŸ˜€

Yeah I didn’t set up lightning bullshit since I shut down my LND

Never bothered anymore until there is bolt12 option I don’t want any zaps

Max is right on the money!

Whoever runs knots never ever transact onchain or do anything with paying in bitcoin!

They just larp and kiss lukes ass all day long just like they claim that ocean is β€œdecentralized”

Ability to send to πŸŒ€from mobile cannot be matched. Hope that will be available soon and activating πŸŒ€cli using api instead of entering 12 words+passphrase

No excuses now!

dojo and fulcrum available on nostr:npub126ntw5mnermmj0znhjhgdk8lh2af72sm8qfzq48umdlnhaj9kuns3le9ll server

https://marketplace.start9.com/?api=community-beta-registry.start9.com&name=Community%20Beta%20Registry

and wallet been reviewed and .apk can be build from source

https://x.com/larrylasermind/status/1898051933048651822

They are no wallet known to planet earth to have spending tools

No wallet can match stonewallx2 or stowaway txn

heck soroban is something no one even knows exists

https://medium.com/samourai-wallet/wallet-update-0-99-96-introducing-soroban-adc9a36a7ddb

UTXO management is on intergalactic level.

Do you even spend #bitcoin ? There is no other PROPER way to spend Bitcoin this is the only way