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Like this I believe

Yep. Robosats is less P2P than BISQ though, as your funds have to be held by Robosats at some points even without a conflict occurring.

But the Lightning aspect is what makes it more attractive to me at the end. You receive on your own node, and then you swap out in cold storage with deezy.io or Boltz through Tor of course, and you get a pretty good privacy IMO. Almost better than KYC+ Coinjoins, with less risk of your coins being flagged.

It’s almost inevitable as thermodynamic laws also apply to human society as a system, so eventually we will end with more prosperity. Sad thing is that it’s a chaotic process and that a lifetime can pass without noticing any significant improvement, or even witness a deterioration of the governance system…

Yes and in my path toward libertarianism I believe that a minimum State in charge of preventing violent crimes is a good compromise to have, even if there are lots of other potential solutions with even less State involved. But it sounds well, to have violence (from the State) only to prevent violence from citizens toward each other.

Obviously it’s also tricky cause violence has to be carefully defined before, and it’s here that natural laws come at play.

In your example, where people are poor at the point of starving there is no State to prevent violence cause nobody can pay policemen, so yes violence could be chosen. But the reach man would be able to pay some of the citizens to protect himself from other by feeding its guardians. Or you could also simply imagine that the reach guy owning its grain, lend it with a interest rate (or not if he decides this as an act of charity), for people to survive until better times come.

Yes and in my path toward libertarianism I believe that a minimum State in charge of preventing violent crimes is a good compromise to have, even if there are lots of other potential solutions with even less State involved. But it sounds well, to have violence (from the State) only to prevent violence from citizens toward each other.

Obviously it’s also tricky cause violence has to be carefully defined before, and it’s here that natural laws come at play.

In your example, where people are poor at the point of starving there is no State to prevent violence cause nobody can pay policemen, so yes violence could be chosen. But the reach man would be able to pay some of the citizens to protect himself from other by feeding its guardians. Or you could also simply imagine that the reach guy owning its grain, lend it with a interest rate (or not if he decides this as an act of charity), for people to survive until better times come.

Sorry I misunderstood, no I don’t use cash for Robosats transaction (just in my daily life) which is obviously not perfect in term of privacy with third parties involved (bank, Robosats itself). But as you said using the Lightning network over Tor make it almost impossible (if you are not a researched criminal by NSA) to link a transaction to a Bitcoin adress. And their isn’t absolute proof that you even bought those coins.

I actually send the money with app like Revolut or N26 or others, so it’s the job of the bank to investigate on their customers. From my point of view I’m just paying friends back for restaurant they paid me, without knowing their behaviors good or bad.

Absolutely no idea, and neither do you. It’s by the way one of the main differences between central planners who claims to know how to solve a problem that they generally themselves created at first, and Austrians who claims that collective intelligence allowed by a free market is far better at solving any problem.

Central planning through violence without any competition can’t work, it may be time to finally accept this obvious fact to build a strong and caring and really democratic human society.

As often as possible yes, why are you asking ?

Agree. I personally use it on my Umbrel server since the app is available, so not Tor Browser involved. But even with Tor it's really convenient for the average Bitcoiner with a bit of privacy and sovereignty in mind.

I’ve heard only good things about #Relai, but I seriously don’t know why people among us Bitcoiners don’t use #robosats or #BISQ to sell their dirty fiat and get fresh non KYC coins. I mean it’s obviously less convenient and more time consuming but come on…non KYC coins deserve a bit of hard work right ? Right ?

Nope

Honestly Mike, don’t be over confident. I’m an anon among many and I still lack a lot of readings that you may have already had. But your talk on WBD was full of approximations and what I call semi-truths, which make me stoped at 40 min. There are many people that I know among my small French Bitcoiners circle, who could at least debate as equal with you, and in all likelihood correct you on many topics.

What I wanted to say is that as you mentioned (and I don’t think any liberal thinker argues that by the way) neither is there an ideal state of nature or equilibrium which will prevent the State from growing indefinitely as it already happened multiple times and everywhere in human history.

I think that once you’ve made the State able to steal from ones to give to others, basically ripping out the obvious non agression principle, it’s over you’ve lost and there is no turning back. You’ve create a honey pot for private interests and lobbies and it’s a never ending fight for who will steal from who.

Basically it means that State intervention out of enforcing the non aggression principle is doomed and lead to a dystopian future because of human nature.

There is no moral gouvernement intervention as good or bad are different to every people. If the market forces can’t auto organize to provide a service, it has no reason to exist. The market is true democracy in a world where violence is not tolerated.

There is literally tons of examples showing that less state = more wealth for citizens, and more state = less wealth, and the reasons are obvious IMO even without reading Austrian economyat all. Everybody can basically tell that there is an obvious correlation between the enforcement of private property and wealth on this planet.

But empirical reasoning is dirty garbage Keynesian tool to create absurd predictive models suiting to those who create them anyway.

Indeed it’s not about results or doing good or evil, as all of this is subjective stuff. It’s about being moral or immoral. You don’t seem to agree that violence should be banned to build a peaceful society (unless you first act violently). It’s not a trap from libertarians living in a utopia, like you seem to believe. It’s basically the obvious ground and root upon which a prosperous civilization must be built… The State (which is basically the gathering of the means of legitimate defense) should only be there to prevent violence of occurring. You step out of that you get 1984 eventually.

Couldn't it change a bit in a not so distant future, now that economic incentives can be created online with magic internet money ?

Is it a bug that you can have no contact list while creating a nostr account with Damus ?

This guy is a fucking idiot this is pathetic to watch, incredible that so many still follow him

Yep it’s how I understand it. This is why I see nostr eventually integrating some kind of micropayment, paving the way and building the incentives for a future (relatively) decentralized storage system

Which client are you using ?

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I’ve to learn how to use WireGuard soon