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Replying to Avatar Bitman

“We could not even imagine in our wildest dreams that we would arrive at the current moment.”

We could, but we didn't want to. For us cypherpunks, this was more like a nightmare than a dream. We actively tried NOT to dream about this.

“We had crampy slow mixmasters, command line encryption that no one used, fiat in envelopes and later centralized electronic gold custodians.”

The performance of mixmasters can be improved, GUI can be developed, fiat in envelopes can be replaced by gift card codes (though there is nothing wrong with fiat in envelopes), and centralized gold custodians can be avoided. All that can be done WITHOUT kissing the government's ass.

“but also these corrupted services did not exist at all in the before times”

Yes, that's what makes those old times better.

“Do we have more options or less? Definitely more.”

Not really. If you are a cypherpunk, you won't count privacy invasive, KYC mandatory solutions as "options".

The existence of options that do more harm than good is not something to celebrate.

“Pissed about grandmas with ETFs?”

Yes.

“Even if you remove them, we are more than 1000x of what anyone expected.”

No we aren't. What we expected was far more glorious than people giving their money to Black Rock so that Black Rock (not the people) can hold more Bitcoin while those people hold neither the fiat money they had nor the Bitcoin that fiat money could have bought them. All they hold is a debt issued by Black Rock. Just a promise on paper, enforced by human convention.

“We thought we are going to be fringe like the 0.001% PGP users.”

That would have been the more favorable outcome. Quality over quantity.

“We don't need everyone to be cypherpunk.”

Yes we do. There is no other way to take our freedom back.

Do you envision a future with two parties on the same chain or is there going to be a fork?

I personally think there will be a fork when blackrock (((messes))) up their ledgers and tries to salvage "crypto" in the eyes of the plebs