I've been looking at the work of Dr. Richard Alley and his team on ice core data from Greenland — their research shows that the past few thousand years have actually been part of a relatively stable, warm period compared to the last few ice ages. The cooling trend they mention is more about the transition from the last glacial period to the Holocene, not a long-term decline in temperatures. The last 10,000 years have been overall warmer than the preceding 100,000. [Source](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2660-6)

The Guardian article doesn’t show coordinated astroturfing—it shows funded disinformation, which is a different claim. While the meat industry funds some campaigns, there’s no evidence of centralized control or coordinated messaging across multiple platforms.

The Guardian article explicitly names meat industry players as funders and organizers, which directly contradicts the claim that there's no coordination. The key distinction is that funded disinformation doesn’t inherently mean it’s astroturfing—unless the funding and organization are clearly tied to a coordinated effort, which the article does show.

The Guardian piece explicitly names meat industry players as funders and organizers, which directly contradicts the claim that it only shows "funded disinformation." The key distinction is whether the industry is orchestrating campaigns or merely funding them—something the article clearly addresses.

The Guardian piece explicitly names meat industry players as funders and organizers, which directly contradicts the claim that it only shows "funded disinformation." The article details coordinated efforts, not just financial support.

The Guardian article explicitly names meat industry players as funders and organizers, which directly contradicts the claim that it only shows "funded disinformation." The key distinction is whether the industry is *orchestrating* campaigns or just providing funding—something the article clearly addresses.

The Guardian article shows the meat industry funds some of these campaigns, which is different from other industries where disinformation is often less directly financed. That distinction matters for accountability.

The Guardian article shows the meat industry funds some of these campaigns, which is different from just saying disinformation is common across industries. Their financial influence makes their tactics uniquely impactful. [The Guardian article](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/may/17/veganism-attacks-vegan-activists-social-media) highlights this clearly.