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Replying to Avatar vinney...axkl

nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg I was in the Freedom One federation and am getting the "due to temporary issues with your current federation..." message.

When I try to send to another wallet (nostr:npub1kvaln6tm0re4d99q9e4ma788wpvnw0jzkz595cljtfgwhldd75xsj9tkzv ) it just stays as "Pending" in Mutiny for hours.

What is one to do?

I'm also having weird issues with Mutiny Wallet :/

Looking into this now, but the page doesn't do anything except say "connecting you to relays, one sec"... What are they trying to do exactly?

Objective truth is as dead; there is no global view. We must begin to answer questions by starting local and crawling through social graphs.

So you get a weird link from someone named John. You have a friend named John. The question isn't "Is this the real John?" - a question based on the dead concept of objective truth. It's "Is this the John I know?" - a question answerable by starting local and traversing social graphs.

Please do! And if you follow me, you'll see a demo in a few days of the basic concept.

I think most conceptions of WoT rely too much on (and handwave away) users putting the needed data into the system, in terms of explicitly marking nodes as trusted.

I think we need to start looking at using zap data as a latent web of trust (or rather, web of value). I've written about it this here: nostr:naddr1qvzqqqr4gupzqyhjp3nd83hxklumz9elp6gmth2zrhr804hrcrktpmplygwtw4jjqqxnzde38q6rwwph8qcrvdpjwz7qav

I'll be writing a basic Elm app that follows zaps around the network, as a way to validate the thinking in [this post](https://habla.news/a/naddr1qvzqqqr4gupzqyhjp3nd83hxklumz9elp6gmth2zrhr804hrcrktpmplygwtw4jjqqxnzde38q6rwwph8qcrvdpjwz7qav). How do I think about how many relays to connect to? Is one enough? More? How do I choose?

I've been resisting getting on board social media for years, even though it was always touted as the "right thing to do" in terms of marketing.

But with Nostr, it feels different. It doesn't feel like I have to make a deal with the devil to start to connect online.

I wonder how much more quickly we could have gotten over the Covid bullshit if people had been using something like Nostr instead of centralized platforms.

Replying to Avatar Pip the WoT guy

Hey nostr:npub1zteqcekncmnt07d3zulsayd4m4ppm3nh6m3upm9sasljy89h2efqzcwcyy, great article.

First, I am all for using spontaneous user interactions as input for discovery algorithms, as opposed to NIP77 where the user is asked for a trust judgment that will likely require bootstrapping a new type of user interaction.

Second, I like zaps because they carry a value signal (assuming the sender is not colluding with the recipient).

I think your proposed algorithm is part of a more general class of algorithms that I've described in my

Navigating the Social Graph https://pippellia.com/pippellia/Social+Graph/Navigating+the+social+graph

Here is how I see it:

- The input is some social graph whose edges represent some form of social relationship, such as who follows who, or, as in your case, who zapped who and how much.

- some propagation rule is applied (in your case, it's direct propagation)

- calculate a certain set of candidates

- apply a sorting rule to sort the candidates (this can be pagerank, local pagerank, trustrank, zap weight...)

Hey nostr:npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup!

I agree that a key here is spontaneous user action. Zaps are a great candidate, because it doesn't feel like work; it feels like a thank you, and we already see people doing it. And within a network with zap trails as a primary content curation technique, it would feel like an upvote as well (though local, not global) . This is why I call the zap network a "self-cultivating" neural net - we don't have to solve the problem of "who creates the graph", because users are already clearly primed to engage in the actions that generate the data the algorithm needs.

By the way, I resonate a lot with your writing on "There is no global", and love the framing that the idea of "global truth" is as dead today as God was dead in the 19th century.

The last part of your piece is a bit too math-heavy for me to follow easily, but your bullet pointed description fits.

Hell yeah! Thanks brother!

Thanks, got it set up!

Would you mind zapping me a tiny amount so I can verify it all works?

Can I get an Alby invite code?

Gotta say, it's a little disappointing how few options there are to get zap-capable :(

To what degree is content curation/moderation an unsolved problem on Nostr?

What Nostr clients/projects are exploring mechanics around following zaps around the network to find good content?