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Happens all the time unless you're doing small acounts (and even then sometimes I've had problems), or paying/receiving from someone else connected to the same node you are (like phoenix to phoenix via acinq).

Lightning is mostly fine when it works. Monero always works.

Exactly, they're not even aware enough to realize it. Their words betray their myopic greed.

You betray your NGU mentality with this comment.

All you seem to think about is having more purchasing power.

Some of us are not that myopic, and we prefer to ensure better privacy and anonymity in our transactions at the possible cost of losing some purchasing power (and actually you would be surprised, this almost never actually happens).

NGU maxipads is one of the worst developments in the Bitcoin community in years. Can't wait for you guys to grow up a bit.

I think it's a different attitude and scope.

China wants to ensure that inside China Chinese rules apply.

While the European Union fancies itself the regulator of the entire world.

Not to say I agree with what China does either.

Are there Chinese laws that force American companies to censor speech on American platforms under threat of massive fines?

That is usually a kind of hubris reserved for the European Union.

For sure, but mass-surveillance "AML" systems are not, and the risk of associating your custodial transparent (to those who think they are our masters) account to a random person is not negligible.

It's like playing Russian roulette. It's fine, until it isn't.

Not to say we shouldn't do it, as I staunchly believe is our right to. Just saying we will probably need to systematically fight for this right.

On that part we don't disagree.

No system is perfect, but some systems are better than others and produce better results.

But unconscious humans driven by petty things such as a lust for power, greed, status, a need for recognition, influence (to name a few) will try to appropriate, co-opt or modify the system for their own selfish needs, as unconscious humans let them and do nothing, until the rot is so big it becomes so obvious and something must be done about it.

Rinse and repeat.

Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.

1. No, not what I said. That's a statist thing, and all socialism is statism, but not all statism is socialism.

2. By the second paragraph of his post.

3. Yes, I find it stupid and it's easily debunked. Just search online outside your bubble.

4. The useful idiot pleb who votes socialist is often not taxed or taxed very low. The virtue signalling pleb who votes socialist and has their wallet raided for 50% or more is some mixture of guilty, virtue signalling, masochistic and dumb. I was talking about the politician, or have you not noticed the propensity for socialists (not just socialists in all fairness) to somehow be quite materiously well off after some years in public service?

Anyway, I wish you luck with your socialism, just try not to drag other people who don't care and don't want it into bankrolling your wallet and your utopias.

Oh, right, it wouldn't work then. It needs mass-coercion to work.

And therein lies the problem.

Do you really need an explanation as to why digital assets actually exist?

Whether you use them or not, whether you like them or not, whether you think it's a good idea to invest in other digital assets besides Bitcoin, the fact of the matter is that obviously they exist.

Is Bitcoin digital? Yes.

Is Bitcoin an asset? Yes.

But the guy isn't even talking about Bitcoin there, he's denigrating everything else, outright denying that anything blockchain other than BTC doesn't even deserve a category (other than "shitcoin", apparently).

Also, you're far too sensitive. I didn't insult anyone, I wrote that something that someone wrote is silly. Do you see the difference?

The toxi maxi part - that's how he puts himself out to the world.

So anyway, very silly indeed.

Ah, the good old "it wasn't real socialism".

Socialism is inherently authoritarian, as you have a group of illuminated ones who raid the wallet of others who don't necessarily want their wallets to be raided, supposedly for their own benefit, while the socialist enriches himself and his friends, and throws some crumbs to the poor.

All other things being equal, in a socialist system you need higher taxes, as all the utopias they promise must be paid by someone, and it sure as hell isn't gonna be from the socialists' own pocket.

Furthermore and most important of all, this top-down style of control is by nature oppressive, as you have the few imposing their will on the many - or else.

Free-market capitalism is the opposite of that. Grassroots bottom-up, mutual benefit, voluntary transactions, respect for life and property, and no imposing utopias on anyone who doesn't want them and doesn't want to pay for them.

Socialism sucks and always will suck.

Agreed, and there is also the fact that at least on one side of that dichotomy, there is a big difference.

Literally everyone I know (online and offline) - and it's quite a lot of people) who uses Monero because of privacy, also holds Bitcoin, and almost always in much greater amounts than their XMR stash.

The #monero price being stable over many years is at least in part due to the fact that people generally want to use it, not hoard it.

And that's fine, different tools for different jobs! I converged on this pattern many years ago myself: I trust BTC to raise my purchasing power over the medium-to-long term, and I trust XMR to keep my transactions from prying eyes.

There's no conflict at all! Just some very dogmatic people around who refuse to see the truth staring them in the face.

True. Who knows, maybe in the end you'll be proven to be the gigaballer!