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Please make sure that you are always engaging with my real profile primal.net/eliza My npub is also in my bio on X @elizableu. No dms please.

Carl walking into the field. #catsr

Tagged in the og post. Wasn’t trying to make a problem. Just popped up in my mentions so my apologies about that. Obviously because you have lowered yourself to name calling under a civil conversation I won’t respond anymore. Have a blessed day. 💜

Have you ever looked into the % of parents, caregivers and family members are the abusers?

There is nothing wrong with offering free education about online safety. It’s actually kind of fun getting an opportunity to teach and learn.

Nah.

I’m an-cap so I have these types of conversations regularly. Child abusers and those who violate the NAP wouldn’t be allowed in my community.

Like adults we would discuss solutions to keep the community safe.

You can have your community in ancapistan and do whatever. Your community would not be my problem.

Now put that online and that’s the conversation that I’m having.

That’s freedom. You choose what you prefer and I’ll choose what I prefer. Don’t use a client that has any safeguards etc if that’s what you prefer. If that’s your personal preference this conversation has nothing to do with you.

I wish you the best of luck with your version of freedom. Truly. 💜

I actually deeply agree with this. Unfortunately education and awareness doesn’t always stop bad things from happening in the world. Greg is making suggestions for when the human rights violations are in process or have already occurred.

You down to work on a program to educate and raise awareness to the youth about internet safety? That’s the wave that I’m on because I don’t work in tech. 💜

I’m tagged in this and perhaps I don’t fully understand, why would anyone be concerned with what anyone else is or isn’t doing and just focus on building their own thing the way they want and ignore those who have chosen a different path?

That’s an honest question I’m not trying to be funny.

When you can’t build on a technical level you look at the gifts and resources that you do have and explore how they can be used to best serve the community.

It’s funny that you mentioned that because nostr:npub1r3fwhjpx2njy87f9qxmapjn9neutwh7aeww95e03drkfg45cey4qgl7ex2 and myself spoke about that yesterday.

On my end I’m working on an education program to be taught to minors about internet safety, sextortion etc.

The goal would be to prevent the crimes from happening and ending up on Nostr in the first place.

Started talking to folks about that last month. nostr:note17mwwwhysazpqn7wae263pyuhd8dyr267d2wk0xjdxf5l7dwppy4qs4ngvt

I’m always specifically speaking about child sexual abuse material, child sexual exploitation material, Ai generated child sexual abuse material, the sale of humans for labor or sex using force, fraud, or coercion. All violations of the NAP and human rights violations globally.

These issues specifically put the builders and others in an extremely venerable position. When you fully understand what is at stake and the scale of the threat you look for ways to protect a right to speak freely.

No government wants anything like Nostr. Expect any and all attacks at their disposal. That’s just the governments.

This is an adult conversation about the reality that the world has evil parts and there are solutions available that don’t silence anyone’s voice across the protocol while protecting their opportunity to have a voice.

Very few are able to have this type of conversation. Anyone who can’t have this specific discussion either doesn’t understand (no shade I don’t know everything) is disingenuous or is larping because they want freedom without the responsibility of protecting it.

The beautiful part about Nostr is that if you want Wild West clients there is nothing stopping you from that.

I haven’t spoken to a creator of a client yet that isn’t concerned and aggressively looking for solutions. They have skin in the game. So that’s why there is a conversation about possible solutions.

Ok so if some of the different suggestions above or something similar isn’t implemented, you hand over control of Nostr to bad actors at some point. You will lose the freedom.

Once you have freedom online or offline, you have to keep it. You have to defend it.

You are talking about getting freedom but not keeping it. A few mutes a day is no defending or protecting freedom on a large scale.

The conversation above is about protecting it and keeping it on a large scale.

You won’t be forced or coerced into defending freedom here. It will become unusable for you personally if you opt out of different types of defense and protections when it grows. That’s the conversation that we are having. “We have freedom, how do we protect it.”

Alright the government is trash but there is hope… just not in the government. Don’t lose hope.