Hey nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcqpqvmwjykc3rpmtpmrrlwrf4u8lfxdnnf0uj083fxtqm5gk2kgaee4qrg6qqd same issue for me, on X I'm almost invisible, with 795 followers my posts rarely get 1 like if any from one of my closest friends.
Obviously shadow banning is still a very real thing.
I would love to join your thread here understanding how to thrive in a new decentralized social media environment.
Funny I just posted a NOSTR note about this 5 minutes ago 🙂
https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsxpqrnfhszvgeze52jfya50gskyscqu977z8rzffegv9nxnhc4jkq2tf2yu
I lost him right at the beginning when he said:
"A person's contemt is another person spam" ... that's like saying "A person being mugged is another person's job" LOL
The "Decentralized ID" Merkle Root would become the anchor or the immutable peg for a certain WoT network, because networks are dynamic and I keep going back to thinking about the need of a timechain to anchor their legitimacy...
Or another way to self finance could be that a certain amount of "shorter names coupons" could be given out as reward for example for people and orgs running the federated relay system.
Initially the 1, 2, 3 letter names could be reserved for internal use and for the 4 letters and up a donation of a certain amount of sats could be asked inversely proportional to the length of the name.
For example for 1,000 sats someone could get a 10 letters name.
And up with the same logic to get to 1 full BTC or more for 5 letters names, this could be also a smart idea to fund the project : )
Claude.ai suggested me earlier today also other possible attack scenarios:
Username Squatting:
Attacker registers thousands of popular names
Defense: Rate limiting, cost per registration, reputation system
Federation Collusion:
5+ federation nodes collude to register conflicting usernames
Defense: Bitcoin timestamp provides proof of fraud, community can fork
51% Attack on Bitcoin:
Attacker reorganizes Bitcoin blockchain
Defense: Wait for deep confirmations (6+), extremely expensive ($billions)
NOSTR Relay Censorship:
Relays refuse to propagate certain registrations
Defense: Users can query Bitcoin directly, run own relays
DNS Hijacking (if using domain):
Attacker compromises domain used for federation
Defense: Use IP addresses, Tor hidden services, or multiple domains
Thanks for your feedback David,
Yes you are making very valid points, for me the important part is not that this becomes "the only one system" (although I said "Universal" perhaps I should change that) , the important part is that it has the potential to become fully decentralized.
Probably in a fully developed decentralized web of trust environments there would be many of these systems to cover different verticals, and ideally they would all be fully decentralized and not dependent on any DNS or private companies.
Yea absolutely, I keep thinking about this and "the closed clubs of insiders" concept feel like "the closed groups of crypto VC investors or shitcoiners", meanwhile "a truly honest bootstrap" would feel like Bitcoin.
That's why I wrote this article earlier today, do you think this could be grounwork fir a solid, fair and equitable reputation system?
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The main point as you mentioned towards the end of your message is going to be "reputation".
Decentralized reputation will likely become exponentially increasingly more important.
I put together a Nostr Read to describe the general idea : )
Thanks for the great call @david @Jon Gordon @Vitor Pamplona @Avi Burra and everyone else present!
#wotathon
I had a question I was trying to put together at the end of the call but couldn't formulate it fast enough during the live call, I'll write it here:
In the context of the Nostr "flat space of encrypted signed notes" is there ever a need for a universal time based source of trust?
Meaning since anybody could spoof a note "created_at" field I guess the current spam protection is set on the individual relays filtering capabilities?
If the relays are filtering the notes based on the current time when processing it the whole system seems to be very dynamic and maybe this is good enough but I'm not sure about how solid or fragile such system could be.
I've been thinking about this in terms of creating a "universal id" that would not require a domain name (because DNS is a centralized service) but instead having just a handle like for example '@fabio' and that handle could simply be everything needed for someone to have their "universal id", meaning that would be all that is needed to link to an npub/nsec pair.
The only way I can wrap my head for solving this in a truly decentralized way would be to use a chronological source of truth with a first come first served logic like this:
1) A foundational layer with a "timechain" record (think for instance at a hash in the OP_RETURN field of a Bitcoin transaction) (no need to get into the Knots vs Core debate on this one because the original 80 bytes would suffice for a hash 🙂 )
2) A layer of "federated relays" acting as a cache so the amount of timechain or blockchain transactions would be minimal, like let's say just once every 24 hours.
In this way it would always be possible to have a proof of authority from history with a chronological first come first served logic that would be written in stone and always verifiable forever.
Would this be something useful or am I missing something and this is already a non issue with the Nostr relays ecosystem?
Thank you,
Fabio
Yes and they are probably more talented, not less talented, because:
"The world rewards action, not potential" 😄
That's the way!
Slap down those bad boys, you'll feel them on the way out too! 😂 😂 😂
This is absolute nonsense, obviously propaganda of the lowest level that can only be accepted by a severly retarded population.
It's like saying to a chef kitchen knife's manufacturer that there are muggers on the streets using their knifes to rob people, or calling the Mercedes dealership and accusing accusing them because someone just used a Mercedes to rob a bank.
The only way to deal with these types of media is IMO to completely disengage, just ignore them and use other sources, otherwise they will distort your cobtent and ideas because the clearly have an agenda that is way above their journalistic ethics.
Yep, it's not what we say, it's what we do that qualify ourselves.
Amazing how Cloudflare just became The Internet's single point of failure.
Look them in the eyes, smile and say a genuine "Thank you".
Then ask them something about themselves to change topic 🙂
"Some people grumble that roses have thorns, I am grateful that thorns have roses"
- St. John The Baptist

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