And now you're getting to the heart of the issue.

They will attach themselves to whatever currency is in use by the masses--dollars, silver/gold, crypto (including Bitcoin, cry about it), bottle caps, whatever. They will use their overwhelming control of society to own it all.

This is why you can't just jump from dollar to Bitcoin and think everything is going to work out, because you're switching from one system owned by psychopaths to another one that is also owned by those same psychopaths (whether it was that way from the beginning of Bitcoin or if it's becoming that way now).

Unless you find a way to remove the demonic "elite" influence over trade in general, the same problems we have with dollars today will manifest in slightly different forms later on with Bitcoin or whatever else. A Bitcoin-based economy is susceptible to usury just as much as a dollar-based one. Fail to pay your Bitcoin-based loan, and your house will be taken away and sold to someone else (for Bitcoin, of course!) all the same.

Lest we think there's another alternative, the same issue applies to gold/silver hoarders. Normal people measure their gold and silver in ounces. The rulers of the world measure their own gold and silver in tens or hundreds of tons. A gold/silver-based currency can be manipulated by any number of creative methods (or tried-and-true ones like counterfeiting) by psychopaths just as easily.

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Well said. I didn’t see that you responded.

This is a very complicated topic. However, you can figure everything out if you trace the money. Fiat has came and went! It is the old railroad lines. The powerful people in charge of keeping those railroads running are now facing a better railway system that is out flouting the new and robust railroads! (Lightning)Bitcoin. Panic is starting to set in for the old regime that controls the fiat financial railroad system.

And now you're getting to the heart of the issue.

They will attach themselves to whatever currency is in use by the masses--dollars, silver/gold, crypto (including Bitcoin, cry about it), bottle caps, whatever. They will use their overwhelming control of society to own it all.

This is why you can't just jump from dollar to Bitcoin and think everything is going to work out, because you're switching from one system owned by psychopaths to another one that is also owned by those same psychopaths (whether it was that way from the beginning of Bitcoin or if it's becoming that way now).

Unless you find a way to remove the demonic "elite" influence over trade in general, the same problems we have with dollars today will manifest in slightly different forms later on with Bitcoin or whatever else. A Bitcoin-based economy is susceptible to usury just as much as a dollar-based one. Fail to pay your Bitcoin-based loan, and your house will be taken away and sold to someone else (for Bitcoin, of course!) all the same.

Lest we think there's another alternative, the same issue applies to gold/silver hoarders. Normal people measure their gold and silver in ounces. The rulers of the world measure their own gold and silver in tens or hundreds of tons. A gold/silver-based currency can be manipulated by any number of creative methods (or tried-and-true ones like counterfeiting) by psychopaths just as easily.

you’re right.

Let’s give up everyone! Nostr is dead

Well said. I didn’t see that you responded.

This is a very complicated topic. However, you can figure everything out if you trace the money. Fiat has came and went! It is the old railroad lines. The powerful people in charge of keeping those railroads running are now facing a better railway system that is out flouting the new and robust railroads! (Lightning)Bitcoin. Panic is starting to set in for the old regime that controls the fiat financial railroad system.

My point was that the WEF has publicly supported Bitcoin. Your point was that this means they are somehow trying to get rid of it (???).

I responded by juxtaposing the two stances (public support vs. your claim that this means they are trying to get rid of Bitcoin) to show that it is ridiculous, and you responded by asking me where I'm from instead of showing me that your point is not, in fact, ridiculous.

The ball is in your court, and you are the one making yourself appear ignorant.

Irrelevant. Respond to the point.

> supports thing publicly, repeatedly

> but that's just because they're trying to get rid of it!!

okay

> supports thing publicly, repeatedly

> but that's just because they're trying to get rid of it!!

okay

They sure don't seem to have a problem with it. The extent to which they support it is unclear. Knowing how they work, their public articles are likely the tip of the iceberg of their involvement, but that's more of more of a "he who has eyes to see" kind of thing.

Consider the following:

- I create a digital coin. There are 100 of them, fixed. Never any more.

- One person has 10 of these coins.

- Said person drops his phone in the toilet, ruining his key. Or he forgets his passphrase.

- His coins are effectively GONE from the system. They are cryptographically impractical to recover, and if they can be recovered, then the whole system is broken.

- There are now 90 coins, where there were once 100.

- The currency has deflated.

Now replace "100" with "21 million" and you have Bitcoin. It deflates over time.

The ball is in your court. Tell me how Bitcoin is not cryptocurrency (which is what "crypto" is short for in this context).

I'm waiting.

Otherwise, Bitcoin is, in fact, "crypto."

So far I'm right. Nobody has addressed my point about deflation with anything other than memes and "NGMI."

When I point out that Bitcoin is, in fact, crypto (cryptocurrency), the only response is shock. Nobody can disprove it. Saying that "Bitcoin is not crypto" is just a marketing stunt that you all have fallen for.

Tell me how Bitcoin is not cryptocurrency. If you can't, then it is cryptocurrency--crypto.

Tell me how Bitcoin is not cryptocurrency. If you can't, then it is cryptocurrency--crypto.

Tell me how Bitcoin is not cryptocurrency. If you can't, then it is cryptocurrency--crypto.